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<blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 5386883" data-attributes="member: 5053">And yet, the core of the disputes here are whether the machine is actually better when propelled by a batter and electric motor. A general engineering principle is that one always uses a battery and electric motor when it can accomplish the task. Combustion only exists for when that is inadequate. And for the vast majority of consumers, and the vast majority of their circumstances, we are already past the point where EVs are superior. They just cost more. That changes over time. This is inevitable.The other point of contention is that Tesla is better at making them than anyone, and always will be. That is self-evident and any dispute comes from ignorance about just how much Tesla has taken the mantle of what Toyota accomplished in previous decades. Absolutely nobody can make things as quickly and cheaply as Tesla can. And they won&#039;t in the foreseeable future. They are all hopelessly behind. They can only sell at Tesla&#039;s price and specs if they do so at a loss. Toyota is in the worst shape of all when it comes to EVs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wilberforce15, post: 5386883, member: 5053"] And yet, the core of the disputes here are whether the machine is actually better when propelled by a batter and electric motor. A general engineering principle is that one always uses a battery and electric motor when it can accomplish the task. Combustion only exists for when that is inadequate. And for the vast majority of consumers, and the vast majority of their circumstances, we are already past the point where EVs are superior. They just cost more. That changes over time. This is inevitable. The other point of contention is that Tesla is better at making them than anyone, and always will be. That is self-evident and any dispute comes from ignorance about just how much Tesla has taken the mantle of what Toyota accomplished in previous decades. Absolutely nobody can make things as quickly and cheaply as Tesla can. And they won't in the foreseeable future. They are all hopelessly behind. They can only sell at Tesla's price and specs if they do so at a loss. Toyota is in the worst shape of all when it comes to EVs. [/QUOTE]

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