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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5403424" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Toyota makes solid, very reliable ICE cars and hybrids.&nbsp; At prices most can afford.&nbsp; They have actually been resistant until just recently to going into EV&#039;s.&nbsp; Most likely because they realize in the long run EV&#039;s are doomed to fail as the new paradigm.&nbsp; Oil is plentiful for at least a couple hundred more years.&nbsp; Metals necessary to make EV&#039;s aren&#039;t.&nbsp; Ultimately it&#039;s a losing proposition.&nbsp; But they are realizing also that it&#039;s both the latest trend and politically fashionable to be in the EV game.&nbsp; They may not conquer Tesla but I do expect them to turn out quality vehicles.&nbsp; If they offer solid EV&#039;s at a much lower price point then Tesla will have to do the same or just be consigned to luxury brand status.&nbsp; Almost no one is going to skip over a solid $30k EV to buy one at $50k no matter how good Tesla is.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5403424, member: 24302"] Toyota makes solid, very reliable ICE cars and hybrids. At prices most can afford. They have actually been resistant until just recently to going into EV's. Most likely because they realize in the long run EV's are doomed to fail as the new paradigm. Oil is plentiful for at least a couple hundred more years. Metals necessary to make EV's aren't. Ultimately it's a losing proposition. But they are realizing also that it's both the latest trend and politically fashionable to be in the EV game. They may not conquer Tesla but I do expect them to turn out quality vehicles. If they offer solid EV's at a much lower price point then Tesla will have to do the same or just be consigned to luxury brand status. Almost no one is going to skip over a solid $30k EV to buy one at $50k no matter how good Tesla is. [/QUOTE]

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