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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 5420195" data-attributes="member: 5053">Yes, that's one out of 200 million. Which is precisely and exactly the number that I listed. Then I applied logic, which I know is terribly foreign for you. Allow me to walk you through it like a baby. The deadly incidents are front loaded toward the earlier versions. The newest version is an order of magnitude safer than the older version. Its overall average might be one in 200 million miles over the last 8 years.  The one in 200 million applied to the entire history of fsd, not the rate for the most recent version. Older versions were much worse than one than 200 million, and the newest version is massively better than one in 200 million. I used a single logical step to get there. Was one logical step too much?</blockquote>