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<blockquote data-quote="MC4YOU2" data-source="post: 1534018" data-attributes="member: 5485">There have been a lot of FT drivers brought up from PT who are in the 4 year progression. As a group, I&#039;d be surprised if they&#039;d OK a five year tier or a $25 cap, considering their own experience. UPS convinces the Teamsters and hourly employees that any gains gotten from negotiations with UPS must be paid for with a &quot;give back&quot; of even greater savings on the companies part.Going forward, considering that, and the incredible unpopularity of the decision to overrule the &quot;no&quot; vote of the last few locals last year, if be surprised if there can be a majority YES vote on any contract not being weighted more heavily toward the rank and file.The retirees got a very short straw as well, with healthcare costs, and even pension contributions flat lining here in the west.Overall, things are still mostly good, but just freaking barely. Hopefully the majority of eligible voters will vote, and will see; The &quot;unborn&quot; must be taken good care of, as these are the people who will be voting on our retirement benefits in time, and by default their own. The gains can&#039;t always be focused on solely the good middle years of careers at UPS, (pay raises, healthcare, vacations and holidays) while neglecting the beginning (where younger workers are trying to start families and buy a house) and the end, where we&#039;d all like to enjoy the fruit of our long invested labors.It&#039;s all important, and UPS only gets to treat us like dogs BECAUSE of our great compensation, which in turn makes UPS far and above superior to it&#039;s competitors.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MC4YOU2, post: 1534018, member: 5485"] There have been a lot of FT drivers brought up from PT who are in the 4 year progression. As a group, I'd be surprised if they'd OK a five year tier or a $25 cap, considering their own experience. UPS convinces the Teamsters and hourly employees that any gains gotten from negotiations with UPS must be paid for with a "give back" of even greater savings on the companies part. Going forward, considering that, and the incredible unpopularity of the decision to overrule the "no" vote of the last few locals last year, if be surprised if there can be a majority YES vote on any contract not being weighted more heavily toward the rank and file. The retirees got a very short straw as well, with healthcare costs, and even pension contributions flat lining here in the west. Overall, things are still mostly good, but just freaking barely. Hopefully the majority of eligible voters will vote, and will see; The "unborn" must be taken good care of, as these are the people who will be voting on our retirement benefits in time, and by default their own. The gains can't always be focused on solely the good middle years of careers at UPS, (pay raises, healthcare, vacations and holidays) while neglecting the beginning (where younger workers are trying to start families and buy a house) and the end, where we'd all like to enjoy the fruit of our long invested labors. It's all important, and UPS only gets to treat us like dogs BECAUSE of our great compensation, which in turn makes UPS far and above superior to it's competitors. [/QUOTE]

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