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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 2300797" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Begging your pardon but the U.S. defended capitalism in South Vietnam against communists in North Vietnam.&nbsp; We didn&#039;t crush democracy there.&nbsp; Nor did we steal the oil in Iraq.&nbsp; Heck one of our biggest headaches with ISIS is they are selling Iraqi oil to finance their operations.&nbsp; Again, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what an empire is.&nbsp; Tell me something, after beating Germany and Japan in WWII why didn&#039;t we just stay and run their countries and take their wealth?&nbsp; That&#039;s what Russia did in Eastern Europe.&nbsp; Did we run all over Europe like the Nazis, or over East Asia like the Japanese?&nbsp; No we didn&#039;t.&nbsp; We developed trade with all of these countries.&nbsp; The U.S. had the luxury of being the only real industrial power after WWII as everyone else rebuilt.&nbsp; That&#039;s why we had decades of prosperity.&nbsp; The world is much more competitive now and that means it&#039;s much tougher for us working folk to make a decent living.&nbsp; This makes the disparity between rich and poor more glaring and people like Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders find a much more receptive populace for socialist ideas.&nbsp; If this ultimately leads to civil unrest the wealthy in too many cases won&#039;t have no one else to blame as they hoard the wealth for themselves.&nbsp; But people do need to take a look at socialism in other countries and see if that&#039;s truly the answer before tearing this country apart.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 2300797, member: 24302"] Begging your pardon but the U.S. defended capitalism in South Vietnam against communists in North Vietnam. We didn't crush democracy there. Nor did we steal the oil in Iraq. Heck one of our biggest headaches with ISIS is they are selling Iraqi oil to finance their operations. Again, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what an empire is. Tell me something, after beating Germany and Japan in WWII why didn't we just stay and run their countries and take their wealth? That's what Russia did in Eastern Europe. Did we run all over Europe like the Nazis, or over East Asia like the Japanese? No we didn't. We developed trade with all of these countries. The U.S. had the luxury of being the only real industrial power after WWII as everyone else rebuilt. That's why we had decades of prosperity. The world is much more competitive now and that means it's much tougher for us working folk to make a decent living. This makes the disparity between rich and poor more glaring and people like Michael Moore and Bernie Sanders find a much more receptive populace for socialist ideas. If this ultimately leads to civil unrest the wealthy in too many cases won't have no one else to blame as they hoard the wealth for themselves. But people do need to take a look at socialism in other countries and see if that's truly the answer before tearing this country apart. [/QUOTE]

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