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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Been In Brown Too Long" data-source="post: 6017833" data-attributes="member: 32249">Yes, they were all manuals. Funny thing, I learned to drive a manual on the job. My first go was as a utility driver just after Thanksgiving driving a Ryder box van much larger than a package car. On road says, "Need you to pick up all the Mail Boxes Etc in XXX town, you can drive a stick, right?" Of course, wanting the work, I lie and say "yes, of course." He hands me the keys, and off I go. Grinding the gears and stalling out repeatedly. Took me a while, but had it down pat by a few hours in... I think I was driving around 15 years before I set foot in an automatic. And yes, even in hot as ballz California, shorts were not allowed.Those are the newer 50 liners. The 50 liners I started on were even more basic than this.</blockquote>