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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 1271886" data-attributes="member: 4816">Spin--Spin --Spin --some States had this --some had that etc etc.&nbsp;Fact: Numerous responsible mid and small Business owners provided basic heathcare for their employees --fifty or whatever before the ACA.&nbsp;The Federal Government Trumps State law --Obamacare MANDATES --the number of Employees fifty --and the number of hours that are legally defined as part time.&nbsp;Employers with over 50 now must give all the bells and whistles --premium plans at premium prices.&nbsp;They cannot afford it --therefore - extremely high percentages are preparing to drop all coverage --convert their business to part time supplementing the 49 locked in number of full-timers.&nbsp;Sure --Obamacare not a full time job killer.&nbsp;Oh --that&#039;s right --people are &quot;choosing&quot; to work less hours ???&nbsp;Just setting up training Hospitals in poor Communities --to increase the number of Doctors and healthcare providers --and providing extremely affordable healthcare to the needy was not good enough .---Had to destroy the entire system --instead of a few fixes. &nbsp;A family owned Sports bar in my community -provided free healthcare to all of its employees --the employee had the option to make a small monthly contribution if they wanted a Premium family plan--with a employer match.Worked fine for over 60 years.&nbsp;Now Obamacare mandates the employer must pay the full boat --Employer had over 6o people working full time --with tips and healthcare making between 65.000 and 75,000 a year.&nbsp;Now adding 50 new part time jobs --greatly reducing hours --dropping all healthcare and reducing the earnings of the former fulltimers by over 50%.Now they cannot support their families ---Nice job Obama --This is the reality across the country.&nbsp;Why did Obama with his magic pen move the Employer mandate till after the November elections ???&nbsp;Even better ---to be announced --Hillarys people are working with Obama-to use his magic pen to change the law again --postpone the Employer mandate till after the next Presidential election !!!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group2/oops.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":oops:" title="Oops&nbsp; &nbsp; :oops:" data-shortname=":oops:" /> But of course --one or two people will still insist the ACA is a very good thing !!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 1271886, member: 4816"] Spin--Spin --Spin --some States had this --some had that etc etc. Fact: Numerous responsible mid and small Business owners provided basic heathcare for their employees --fifty or whatever before the ACA. The Federal Government Trumps State law --Obamacare MANDATES --the number of Employees fifty --and the number of hours that are legally defined as part time. Employers with over 50 now must give all the bells and whistles --premium plans at premium prices. They cannot afford it --therefore - extremely high percentages are preparing to drop all coverage --convert their business to part time supplementing the 49 locked in number of full-timers. Sure --Obamacare not a full time job killer. Oh --that's right --people are "choosing" to work less hours ??? Just setting up training Hospitals in poor Communities --to increase the number of Doctors and healthcare providers --and providing extremely affordable healthcare to the needy was not good enough .---Had to destroy the entire system --instead of a few fixes. A family owned Sports bar in my community -provided free healthcare to all of its employees --the employee had the option to make a small monthly contribution if they wanted a Premium family plan--with a employer match. Worked fine for over 60 years. Now Obamacare mandates the employer must pay the full boat --Employer had over 6o people working full time --with tips and healthcare making between 65.000 and 75,000 a year. Now adding 50 new part time jobs --greatly reducing hours --dropping all healthcare and reducing the earnings of the former fulltimers by over 50%. Now they cannot support their families ---Nice job Obama --This is the reality across the country. Why did Obama with his magic pen move the Employer mandate till after the November elections ??? Even better ---to be announced --Hillarys people are working with Obama-to use his magic pen to change the law again --postpone the Employer mandate till after the next Presidential election !!!:oops: But of course --one or two people will still insist the ACA is a very good thing !! [/QUOTE]

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