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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1511089" data-attributes="member: 2189">Actually, you can trace the beginnings of ISIS back to 1999&#039; and last time I looked, that was before your Beloved, Saintly Bush. The &quot;Blame Bush for everything&quot; reaction is a fallacious argument.&nbsp; IMO it&#039;s on the same order of &quot;you criticized Obama so you must be a racist&quot; BS. 2014&#039; was when Al Qaeda and ISIS split from one another.&nbsp; Al Qaeda told ISIS to stop the civilian attacks, ISIS refused so AQ broke off the relationship.&nbsp; Then ISIS stood on it&#039;s own so to speak.&nbsp; Before that, the reference was always to Al Qaeda even though it could be an action of any number of region organizations under a regional name.&nbsp; Besides, the American public were conditioned to respond to the name Al Qaeda so there you go.Al Qaeda has never been a single monolithic organization as most people take for granted that it is.&nbsp; It&#039;s a network of various regional non state entities with it&#039;s own regional control.&nbsp; I found it better said by Rohan Gunaratna in his 2002&#039; work, &quot;Inside Al Qaeda&quot; pp 95-96.If you watch the various talking heads on say TV (regardless the network) who mostly are either politically charged or have other self serving agendas, those 2 minute rants tell you almost next to nothing of what you may really need to know.&nbsp; In fact, it&#039;s easy to think ISIS popped up out of thin air in 2014&#039;.&nbsp; To find the truth, one has to dig a bit deeper.&nbsp; Learn to question EVERYTHING and then verify for yourself.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1511089, member: 2189"] Actually, you can trace the beginnings of ISIS back to 1999' and last time I looked, that was before your Beloved, Saintly Bush. The "Blame Bush for everything" reaction is a fallacious argument. IMO it's on the same order of "you criticized Obama so you must be a racist" BS. 2014' was when Al Qaeda and ISIS split from one another. Al Qaeda told ISIS to stop the civilian attacks, ISIS refused so AQ broke off the relationship. Then ISIS stood on it's own so to speak. Before that, the reference was always to Al Qaeda even though it could be an action of any number of region organizations under a regional name. Besides, the American public were conditioned to respond to the name Al Qaeda so there you go. Al Qaeda has never been a single monolithic organization as most people take for granted that it is. It's a network of various regional non state entities with it's own regional control. I found it better said by Rohan Gunaratna in his 2002' work, "Inside Al Qaeda" pp 95-96. If you watch the various talking heads on say TV (regardless the network) who mostly are either politically charged or have other self serving agendas, those 2 minute rants tell you almost next to nothing of what you may really need to know. In fact, it's easy to think ISIS popped up out of thin air in 2014'. To find the truth, one has to dig a bit deeper. Learn to question EVERYTHING and then verify for yourself. [/QUOTE]

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