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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1515635" data-attributes="member: 2189">Like a good politician, what Bin Laden said on its face is true, but the truth lay in a much deeper story.  The mujahideen (I use the term as a collective while understanding the vast differences of the many factions, Bin Laden as one example) did not get any direct funding from the US in that sense as this war was a covert funded war.  Via the CIA's Operation Cyclone, funding and arms filtered through various intermediaries but the source was mainly the US along with England's MI6 and SAS among others.  The main intermediary was the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence which many consider a kind of daughter of the US's own CIA.  Under some conditions it would seem impossible to see where CIA ended and ISI began. ISI acted as distributor just as Pakistan itself acted as a staging ground but going further into Cyclone, Charlie Wilson often becomes the face to the public but the real grand architect was a CIA paramilitary officer Michael Vickers.  The idea man for arming the Afghan insurgents with Stinger missiles was a Senior Pentagon official, Michael Pillsbury.  In the case of Bin Laden, it could be said that a lot of what he saw came from sources more connected with Saudi Arabia but then one could say the Saudi's were on the US hip as well.  In fact, the late Saudi King Fahd who reigned from 1982' till his death in 2005' had as one of his 2 closest friends in Salem bin Laden, brother of Osama until Salem was killed in an ultralight aircraft accident interestingly in Texas in 1988'.  Interesting in the fact that Salem was an investor in a Texas oil company by the name of Arbusto Energy which was founded in 1979' for the benefit of one George W. Bush whose father had just concluded a tour as CIA director and about to become VP of the US and then later POTUS. Not to mention connections of the Bin Laden family to powerful business and US political movers and shakers via the Carlyle Group.  The Bin Laden family and Carlyle terminated its ties it seems to appear in <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/26/business/bin-laden-family-liquidates-holdings-with-carlyle-group.html" target="_blank">Oct. 2001</a> in a move of mutual interests.  Among them some potential political embarrassment?  But then this could all just be nothing more than coincidence theory.Ever notice how throughout history it's openly accepted that political courts are loaded with deception, deceit, treachery and the most vile of human action and yet in our era, somehow we've discovered a way to avoid all that and only the most noble and highest order human makes up out political court under the ideal of the just cause?  To those who will one day study us as ancients to them,  I hope they get a good laugh at our delusions.As I said, on its face, Osama was being truthful, but once you dig into the details, a whole other story emerges whose massive contradictions seriously fracture the "official" narrative.</blockquote>

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