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<blockquote data-quote="Packmule" data-source="post: 1516976" data-attributes="member: 33558"></blockquote>Called? By what? A bunch of unsubstantiated rhetoric? Easy to throw out all these claims, but in the end a lot harder to provide names, cases, money trails and sources that don&#039;t have an agenda of their own. Believe what you wish, but I shall never be one to negate the honorable service records of hundreds of thousands of US servicemen because a few scumbags raped women and children. Nor will I ever lose my faith that this country is basically a very noble one with the best of intentions. Whether it was Europe in WWII, or the Middle East today, no one has a right to look the other way while atrocities are being committed. And the last time I checked, the US Congress and the president were the ones with burdened with the responsibility of deciding to go to war or abstain. Not some wealthy businessman. Tired of hearing about this alleged conspiracy perpetrated against the poor and middle class by some nameless faceless wealthy person. as for the link between the CIA and UBL, everything I&#039;m able to find on it still says no link was ever found. And who cares? Even if your claims are true, it doesn&#039;t justify killing 3000 American citizens. With the middle east, we&#039;re either going to liberate and educate them, or we&#039;re going to have to exterminate them cause they never were, and never will, give Obama the luxury of claiming he brought about peace on earth. Sorry, but realty has called out the liberal mantra. That&#039;s why they took such a kick in the teeth last November.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Packmule, post: 1516976, member: 33558"] [/QUOTE] Called? By what? A bunch of unsubstantiated rhetoric? Easy to throw out all these claims, but in the end a lot harder to provide names, cases, money trails and sources that don't have an agenda of their own. Believe what you wish, but I shall never be one to negate the honorable service records of hundreds of thousands of US servicemen because a few scumbags raped women and children. Nor will I ever lose my faith that this country is basically a very noble one with the best of intentions. Whether it was Europe in WWII, or the Middle East today, no one has a right to look the other way while atrocities are being committed. And the last time I checked, the US Congress and the president were the ones with burdened with the responsibility of deciding to go to war or abstain. Not some wealthy businessman. Tired of hearing about this alleged conspiracy perpetrated against the poor and middle class by some nameless faceless wealthy person. as for the link between the CIA and UBL, everything I'm able to find on it still says no link was ever found. And who cares? Even if your claims are true, it doesn't justify killing 3000 American citizens. With the middle east, we're either going to liberate and educate them, or we're going to have to exterminate them cause they never were, and never will, give Obama the luxury of claiming he brought about peace on earth. Sorry, but realty has called out the liberal mantra. That's why they took such a kick in the teeth last November. [/QUOTE]

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