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Message: <blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 705171" data-attributes="member: 9859">So, conservatives consider socialism OK in some situations, but not in others, what, for them, distinguishes “good” socialism from “bad” socialism? IMO conservatives (especially wealthy ones) don’t mind having everyone share the cost of things such as military, police, fire, transportation, utilities, judges, etc.,  And what better way is there to protect those assets against loss (fire, theft, fraud, etc.) than by making everyone share the cost. Of course, not all are wealthy and powerful, but I’m talking here about conservatives who unquestioningly accept socialism in some contexts, while blindly rejecting it in others. I suspect these people realize (consciously or subconsciously) that, for them personally, socialized cops are good but socialized doctors are not. They’re content to let their neighbors help pay for the police that protect their mansion, but why should they help pay for their neighbor’s broken leg?  Av8...You said everyone has access to Healthcare in the US....Technically true but there's a steep price tag associated with it all, and you've only scratched the surface.. Let me explain what happens when you use your local Emergency Room as your Primary Care Provider besides creating long waiting periods. It doesn’t work because you rarely get the same Doctor twice and they don’t follow up and perform the same duties as a Primary Care Provider. Every Emergency Room in the nation will tell you not to use them as a Primary Care Provider, they are for emergencies only and are not designed or arranged to be a Primary Care Provider. That is why they are called an “Emergency Room”. When you go to your local E.R., you spend hours waiting and they typically want to hospitalize and refer you on to Primary Care Providers and Specialists after they provide assessment and the emergency care needed to ensure that you will survive whatever crisis that is supposed to bring you to their doors. You then have to find a way to pay for that care that you receive in the E.R. and any tests that were performed. If you need a prescription filled or medical equipment such as oxygen, crutches or a wheelchair then you have to find a way to pay for medications and whatever medical supplies/equipment that you may need. When you receive the bills from the hospital, and E.R. bills are always more expensive than standard Doctor Bills, then you can count on having your credit negatively affected if you don’t have the money to pay those bills. You can also count on being harassed, intimidated, and threatened by collection agencies, and in some states wages can be garnished and charges can be filed for nonpayment of medical debt. Prescriptions and medical aids are a whole other story as most people that are uninsured also can’t afford to purchase prescriptions or medical aids Emergency Rooms, hospitals, Doctors, tests, lab work, prescriptions, and medical supplies have to be paid for in order to obtain those services. Public hospitals are not permitted to turn away patients but they still have to be paid and will do everything in their power to obtain payment. And forget about private hospitals, they just deny patients if they can’t pay....</blockquote>

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