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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 996718" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Ridiculous.</p><p></p><p>He mentioned Thomas Jefferson, but rather than go on a long explanation you wouldnt understand, ill leave you with Jeffersons own words.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">"And </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong>the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong>being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong>the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.</strong> But we may hope that </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors." -- </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jefferson's letter to John Adams, April 11 1823 </span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jefferson was a rationalist. He </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">believed that Jesus was a pure and ethical teacher of morals. To that end, </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jefferson took a razor to the New Testament and removed passages he thought to </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">have been inserted by the authors of the gospels (whom he called the </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">"commentators"), and he pasted what remained together as "</span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">The Jefferson </span></a></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Bible</span></a><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">". <strong>With his razor blade, he removed every verse dealing with </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong>the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, claims of Jesus' divinity and other </strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'"><strong>puerile superstition,</strong> thus leaving us with a very much shorter book. In </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">1904, the Jefferson Bible was printed by order of Congress, and for many years </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">was presented to all newly elected members of that body. </span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Jefferson was called an ATHEIST by </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Christian ministers of his day, who tried to block his presidency! How can </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Christians claim him now as one of them, now that he's dead?!</span></p><p><a href="http://www.newwest.net/city/article/thomas_jefferson_atheist_and_leveler_from_virginia/C108/L108/" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">http://www.newwest.net/city/article/thomas_jefferson_atheist_and_leveler_from_virginia/C108/L108/</span></a></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">"As </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">to the calumny of <strong>Atheism</strong>, I am so broken to calumnies of every </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">kind, from every department of government, Executive, Legislative, and </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">Judiciary, and from every minion of theirs holding office or seeking it, that I </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">entirely disregard it, and from Chace it will have less effect than from any </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">other man in the United States. It has been so impossible to contradict all </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">their lies, that I have determined to contradict none; for while I should be </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">engaged with one, they would publish twenty new ones." -- Jefferson's Letter to </span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">James Monroe, May 26, 1800</span></p><p></p><p>There is much more evidence in the historical record of THOMAS JEFFERSON to sustain that he was not a practicing christian, but there always seems to be some religious zealot out there attempting to make this a CHRISTIAN nation, despite the words of the founders themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>BOOYA</p><p></p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 996718, member: 17969"] Ridiculous. He mentioned Thomas Jefferson, but rather than go on a long explanation you wouldnt understand, ill leave you with Jeffersons own words. [FONT=Georgia]"And [B]the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme [/B] [B]being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of [/B] [B]the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.[/B] But we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with all this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this the most venerated reformer of human errors." -- Jefferson's letter to John Adams, April 11 1823 [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Jefferson was a rationalist. He believed that Jesus was a pure and ethical teacher of morals. To that end, Jefferson took a razor to the New Testament and removed passages he thought to have been inserted by the authors of the gospels (whom he called the "commentators"), and he pasted what remained together as "[/FONT][URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible'][FONT=Georgia]The Jefferson Bible[/FONT][/URL][FONT=Georgia]". [B]With his razor blade, he removed every verse dealing with [/B] [B]the virgin birth, miracles, resurrection, claims of Jesus' divinity and other [/B] [B]puerile superstition,[/B] thus leaving us with a very much shorter book. In 1904, the Jefferson Bible was printed by order of Congress, and for many years was presented to all newly elected members of that body. [/FONT] [FONT=Georgia]Jefferson was called an ATHEIST by Christian ministers of his day, who tried to block his presidency! How can Christians claim him now as one of them, now that he's dead?![/FONT] [URL='http://www.newwest.net/city/article/thomas_jefferson_atheist_and_leveler_from_virginia/C108/L108/'][FONT=Georgia]http://www.newwest.net/city/article/thomas_jefferson_atheist_and_leveler_from_virginia/C108/L108/[/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Georgia]"As to the calumny of [B]Atheism[/B], I am so broken to calumnies of every kind, from every department of government, Executive, Legislative, and Judiciary, and from every minion of theirs holding office or seeking it, that I entirely disregard it, and from Chace it will have less effect than from any other man in the United States. It has been so impossible to contradict all their lies, that I have determined to contradict none; for while I should be engaged with one, they would publish twenty new ones." -- Jefferson's Letter to James Monroe, May 26, 1800[/FONT] There is much more evidence in the historical record of THOMAS JEFFERSON to sustain that he was not a practicing christian, but there always seems to be some religious zealot out there attempting to make this a CHRISTIAN nation, despite the words of the founders themselves. BOOYA Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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