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Message: <blockquote data-quote="It will be fine" data-source="post: 2945236" data-attributes="member: 55017">With China we opened trade and they have gotten slightly better at their human rights abuses. They have a large growing middle class bringing millions out of poverty every year. With NK if we really cared about their abuses we'd have invaded again already. We don't seem to care much, so the question becomes what ensures our security the best. The status quo doesn't appear to be doing that very well. We could try opening them up and spreading democracy through culture and trade. The current Kim might not be on board but you never know.</blockquote>