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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 3650696" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>It&#039;s a shame you don&#039;t understand what socialism is.&nbsp; It isn&#039;t government providing security(police and fire), road work, etc.&nbsp; Socialism is an economic system.&nbsp; It&#039;s government control of business.&nbsp; The degree of control varies from country to country that are considered socialist.&nbsp; But businesses exist first to pay the government, as do also individuals.&nbsp; An example of government control for you: in France they decided if no one worked more than 35 hrs a week then there would be more available jobs.&nbsp; They even have people out looking for violators.&nbsp; They literally arrest and fine people caught working after hours.&nbsp; You already know about socialized medicine and their government control over it.&nbsp; In the U.S. there are regulations business must abide by or get fined, primarily to protect stockholders, consumers, employees, and the environment.&nbsp; But in socialism government dictates how a business conducts business.&nbsp; And in it&#039;s extreme form a centralized government runs everything, assigning workers to jobs, all money goes to the state.&nbsp; It isn&#039;t what a government in a free society is supposed to do, maintain safety, provide education, etc.&nbsp; Calling that socialism is just a ploy to get the country to where socialists want it, with them controlling everything.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 3650696, member: 24302"] It's a shame you don't understand what socialism is. It isn't government providing security(police and fire), road work, etc. Socialism is an economic system. It's government control of business. The degree of control varies from country to country that are considered socialist. But businesses exist first to pay the government, as do also individuals. An example of government control for you: in France they decided if no one worked more than 35 hrs a week then there would be more available jobs. They even have people out looking for violators. They literally arrest and fine people caught working after hours. You already know about socialized medicine and their government control over it. In the U.S. there are regulations business must abide by or get fined, primarily to protect stockholders, consumers, employees, and the environment. But in socialism government dictates how a business conducts business. And in it's extreme form a centralized government runs everything, assigning workers to jobs, all money goes to the state. It isn't what a government in a free society is supposed to do, maintain safety, provide education, etc. Calling that socialism is just a ploy to get the country to where socialists want it, with them controlling everything. [/QUOTE]

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