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<blockquote data-quote="MrFedEx" data-source="post: 4291554" data-attributes="member: 12508">Nyet, Komrade. Those soybean contracts were US deals until Trump tariffs killed them. Sure, maybe they&#039;re cheaper through other countries now, but I don&#039;t see any proof of that. US farmers are very efficient and price-competitive. Trump cost them their sales, plain and simple.Those same soybean and corn farmers aren&#039;t buying new combines or other farm equipment because they&#039;re going broke. Nobody invests in new equipment when the future market is so uncertain.Ever been to China? I have... a lot. They love Hummers, Buicks, and VWs, plus the elites love German luxury cars. GM and VW build previous generation cars in plants located in China, and Hummer sold all of their tooling to the Chinese. Geely is the big car company there, and Geely owns Volvo among other foreign manufacturers, so they&#039;ve got their hand in other markets too.Most Chinese aren&#039;t interested in most US cars, which are too large, and it&#039;s a slim percentage of Chinese that can actually afford cars anyways. Motorcycles and public transport rule the day.The swine flu outbreak happened after the Trump tariffs, so that&#039;s another lie/excuse. Ever hear of tofu? Soybeans are a mainstay of the Chinese food supply as well.Keep trying, van, and I&#039;ll keep shooting you down.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MrFedEx, post: 4291554, member: 12508"] Nyet, Komrade. Those soybean contracts were US deals until Trump tariffs killed them. Sure, maybe they're cheaper through other countries now, but I don't see any proof of that. US farmers are very efficient and price-competitive. Trump cost them their sales, plain and simple. Those same soybean and corn farmers aren't buying new combines or other farm equipment because they're going broke. Nobody invests in new equipment when the future market is so uncertain. Ever been to China? I have... a lot. They love Hummers, Buicks, and VWs, plus the elites love German luxury cars. GM and VW build previous generation cars in plants located in China, and Hummer sold all of their tooling to the Chinese. Geely is the big car company there, and Geely owns Volvo among other foreign manufacturers, so they've got their hand in other markets too. Most Chinese aren't interested in most US cars, which are too large, and it's a slim percentage of Chinese that can actually afford cars anyways. Motorcycles and public transport rule the day. The swine flu outbreak happened after the Trump tariffs, so that's another lie/excuse. Ever hear of tofu? Soybeans are a mainstay of the Chinese food supply as well. Keep trying, van, and I'll keep shooting you down. [/QUOTE]

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