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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4658260" data-attributes="member: 63706">From the article:&quot;only a tiny fraction of infected people do not show symptoms and that they do not seem to be accounting for much transmission.&quot;The false claim of asymptomatic/presymptomatic spread is the entire premise behind the excessive actions taken by most states and countries. The WHO knew back then such spread was rare and wasn&#039;t driving the spread. It&#039;s also the premise behind masking. I don&#039;t remember anyone saying that we shouldn&#039;t isolate symptomatic people, which is basically all this article says should be necessary to contain the virus, beside contact tracing and cancelling large events. It&#039;s locking down healthy people that and mask mandates that people have been arguing against, and this article does not suggest either. But this article is old, and they are finding that the belief that the virus can be contained pre-herd immunity is incorrect.The article also straight up says asymptomatic spread is what makes flu uncontainable, and that if asymptomatic spread of covid were happening, it, too, would be uncontainable. But that is the exact opposite of what everyone else has been saying about it. They say we must lock down healthy people because they could be asymptomatic spreaders. That people without symptoms must wear masks because asymptomatic spread is possible. If you want to use this article, it actually supports Trump&#039;s response to the pandemic, and most states and countries go way beyond what this article says to do, and even base decisions on the opposite of what this article says.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4658260, member: 63706"] From the article: "only a tiny fraction of infected people do not show symptoms and that they do not seem to be accounting for much transmission." The false claim of asymptomatic/presymptomatic spread is the entire premise behind the excessive actions taken by most states and countries. The WHO knew back then such spread was rare and wasn't driving the spread. It's also the premise behind masking. I don't remember anyone saying that we shouldn't isolate symptomatic people, which is basically all this article says should be necessary to contain the virus, beside contact tracing and cancelling large events. It's locking down healthy people that and mask mandates that people have been arguing against, and this article does not suggest either. But this article is old, and they are finding that the belief that the virus can be contained pre-herd immunity is incorrect. The article also straight up says asymptomatic spread is what makes flu uncontainable, and that if asymptomatic spread of covid were happening, it, too, would be uncontainable. But that is the exact opposite of what everyone else has been saying about it. They say we must lock down healthy people because they could be asymptomatic spreaders. That people without symptoms must wear masks because asymptomatic spread is possible. If you want to use this article, it actually supports Trump's response to the pandemic, and most states and countries go way beyond what this article says to do, and even base decisions on the opposite of what this article says. [/QUOTE]

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