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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 4726808" data-attributes="member: 66082">I don&#039;t see anything as &quot;toxic&quot;.&nbsp; I just think people are in fantasyland and view American public life with this conspiratorial mindset. The main problem in American politics is an old problem in American politics.&nbsp; American governance was formed around eliminating huge segments of the population from participating in American governance.&nbsp; An ideology was created to justify excluding those Americans.As a result a huge segment of Americans don&#039;t see millions of other Americans as real Americans, they see those other Americans as threats to America and don&#039;t want those people to benefit from the government or direct the government, and so they embrace a politics of negation.&nbsp; Its why we can&#039;t address actual issues because one political party doesn&#039;t have to care about addressing issues, they can pass tax cuts for billionaires and tell the rest of us to go kick rocks and still win a ton of elections.&nbsp;&nbsp; In terms of your examples, the first one is utter bs.&nbsp; the second one is debatable, and the third one isn&#039;t really true.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 4726808, member: 66082"] I don't see anything as "toxic". I just think people are in fantasyland and view American public life with this conspiratorial mindset. The main problem in American politics is an old problem in American politics. American governance was formed around eliminating huge segments of the population from participating in American governance. An ideology was created to justify excluding those Americans. As a result a huge segment of Americans don't see millions of other Americans as real Americans, they see those other Americans as threats to America and don't want those people to benefit from the government or direct the government, and so they embrace a politics of negation. Its why we can't address actual issues because one political party doesn't have to care about addressing issues, they can pass tax cuts for billionaires and tell the rest of us to go kick rocks and still win a ton of elections. In terms of your examples, the first one is utter bs. the second one is debatable, and the third one isn't really true. [/QUOTE]

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