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Message: <blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 4949027" data-attributes="member: 66082"><p>The reality is that black Americans faced wide spread open discrimination for 80% of this nation's history and then once that was ended, they still faced wide spread discrimination.  Americans don't see black Americans as fully American. black Americans are viewed as separate from American society.   that's why discussion of American social issues gets turned into the "blacks" have to fix what's collectively wrong with them because their problems aren't American, they are the result of collective black racial failure.  This POV of is extremely common, wrong and racist.</p></blockquote><p></p>