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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 6026783" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>That&#039;s interesting and important information.&nbsp; But as you know words tend to get different meanings and connotations over time.&nbsp; Someone today reading the verse, and not knowing what the origin is, would.likely read into it a modern interpretation.&nbsp; You know the hymn &quot;Amazing Grace?&quot;&nbsp; In the lyrics there&#039;s the phrase &quot;for such a wretch as I.&quot;&nbsp; I heard a guy in a Bible class react very strongly to the word wretch.&nbsp; He said it was terrible to call people vomit!&nbsp; But when the song was written a wretch was a lost soul.&nbsp; To be wretched was to be in a lost condition.&nbsp; [USER=26800]@Integrity[/USER] has questioned the study of the original Greek and Hebrew texts, saying that&#039;s just someone&#039;s interpretation.&nbsp; He doesn&#039;t seem to get that untold thousands of scholars have studied the languages so that they could get the interpretation right.&nbsp; Doctorates in Greek and Hebrew.&nbsp; He airs it off because he refuses to accept passages that condemn sin.&nbsp; And couldn&#039;t be more off base.&nbsp; When one would ignore harm being caused to the weak and defenseless and defend ignoring it by saying it&#039;s God&#039;s will or it wouldn&#039;t be happening then that person is only interested in a religion that allows sin without punishment because some of what the Bible calls sin, like homosexuality, he approves of.&nbsp; So to make his belief system work he has to accept everything that happens as part of God&#039;s plan.&nbsp; Even if it&#039;s a grown man raping a little girl.&nbsp; That&#039;s moral bankruptcy.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 6026783, member: 24302"] That's interesting and important information. But as you know words tend to get different meanings and connotations over time. Someone today reading the verse, and not knowing what the origin is, would.likely read into it a modern interpretation. You know the hymn "Amazing Grace?" In the lyrics there's the phrase "for such a wretch as I." I heard a guy in a Bible class react very strongly to the word wretch. He said it was terrible to call people vomit! But when the song was written a wretch was a lost soul. To be wretched was to be in a lost condition. [USER=26800]@Integrity[/USER] has questioned the study of the original Greek and Hebrew texts, saying that's just someone's interpretation. He doesn't seem to get that untold thousands of scholars have studied the languages so that they could get the interpretation right. Doctorates in Greek and Hebrew. He airs it off because he refuses to accept passages that condemn sin. And couldn't be more off base. When one would ignore harm being caused to the weak and defenseless and defend ignoring it by saying it's God's will or it wouldn't be happening then that person is only interested in a religion that allows sin without punishment because some of what the Bible calls sin, like homosexuality, he approves of. So to make his belief system work he has to accept everything that happens as part of God's plan. Even if it's a grown man raping a little girl. That's moral bankruptcy. [/QUOTE]

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