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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4577892" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>If you have a good paying job, sure.&nbsp; Most couriers live paycheck to paycheck.&nbsp; I didn&#039;t quit and come back every few years.&nbsp; I quit after 11 years because we hadn&#039;t got a raise for four years then got a very small one.&nbsp; Got frustrated.&nbsp; Came back and was willing to put in the 7-8 years I was told it would take to top out.&nbsp; Live and learn.&nbsp; Wasn&#039;t true.&nbsp; Put in just shy of 15 more years before quitting again.&nbsp; The ones who were topped out did make enough to have a few choices and a life if they were married and their spouse had a good job.&nbsp; I was back as a midrange employee for almost 15 years falling further and further behind top out.&nbsp; Please don&#039;t tell me all those midrange employees on the portable pension were doing just fine with their retirement.&nbsp; A lot of very unhappy people and a lot of turnover.&nbsp; How do you think 10+ year employees felt when told under the new pay plan they&#039;d have to work another 7-8 years to top out when someone coming off the street would do it in 9 years?&nbsp; So try to frame it about me and my failings if you like, tens of thousands of couriers who hired on thinking they had a bright future with a great company found out differently.&nbsp; I feel for them because a lot of them are unaware of alternatives or worry that they&#039;d be risking their life going overseas.&nbsp; And people like you stoke that fear when you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about.&nbsp; Even if all they have is Social Security they are much better off in many countries.&nbsp; Not because the U.S. is horrible, but it&#039;s much more expensive than they can afford.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 4577892, member: 24302"] If you have a good paying job, sure. Most couriers live paycheck to paycheck. I didn't quit and come back every few years. I quit after 11 years because we hadn't got a raise for four years then got a very small one. Got frustrated. Came back and was willing to put in the 7-8 years I was told it would take to top out. Live and learn. Wasn't true. Put in just shy of 15 more years before quitting again. The ones who were topped out did make enough to have a few choices and a life if they were married and their spouse had a good job. I was back as a midrange employee for almost 15 years falling further and further behind top out. Please don't tell me all those midrange employees on the portable pension were doing just fine with their retirement. A lot of very unhappy people and a lot of turnover. How do you think 10+ year employees felt when told under the new pay plan they'd have to work another 7-8 years to top out when someone coming off the street would do it in 9 years? So try to frame it about me and my failings if you like, tens of thousands of couriers who hired on thinking they had a bright future with a great company found out differently. I feel for them because a lot of them are unaware of alternatives or worry that they'd be risking their life going overseas. And people like you stoke that fear when you don't know what you're talking about. Even if all they have is Social Security they are much better off in many countries. Not because the U.S. is horrible, but it's much more expensive than they can afford. [/QUOTE]

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