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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LastBest&amp;Final" data-source="post: 506968" data-attributes="member: 20437">Originally Posted by stevetheupsguyIt's been almost 3 months since I joined the safety committee, and I have yet to accomplish anything. I've drilled drivers on safe methods and DOK (Depth Of Knowledge), listened in on conference calls, but that's pretty much all I've done. When did you join. Your first post on this thread seems to indicate it was about two months ago. Drilling drivers on safe work methods and DOK is important as far as training goes. Have you attended any safety meetings reviewed any accidents or injuries developed any plans to prevent based on trends , done any facility walk throughs. These are things that the safety committee does. What else did you expect to do?Using safe work methods and DOK is important, but knowing them word for word with using them is a waste of time.  Many of us, who join the safety committee, want to actually improve the safety conditions at UPS, not just to say that we want to.  We would like to prevent an accident or injury before it happens, so we don't have to review after it already happen.I recently reported that my pkg car had been damaged, while being used by a cover driver. This "accident" was conveniently covered up, so that it wouldn't go on the accident frequency report. Our mechanic told me that he would have to write up the replacement of my pkg car mirror arm and part of my TP60, as accidents. I told him to go ahead, and reported this to my On-Road, who was seated in the "safety zone" having a conversation with the Division safety manager DSM. The on-road got all red in the face and blasted off to go speak with the mechanic. You have a package car with damage on it and you expect us to charge someone with it with no witnesses?After punching out, I went upstairs to speak with the DSM. I told her that I was contemplating quitting as safety co-chair, due to the fact that I was never trained and didn't reAccidents should be reported and not be covered up.  I seen many drivers get charge with an accident when they bring their car back to the center with damaged on it, and I've seen a select few drivers that don't get charged for it.  I seen drivers get fired for not reporting damages to their pkg cars, and the company had no witnesses of the accident.ally do anything, besides what I listed above. She blah blah blah-ed me, for like 25 minutes. She ended by saying, basically, that mgmt is in charge of safety. So as I understood it, mgmt has control over what slips out and gets reported, and what doesn't. During this conversation, my on-road, got red faced again, and started telling me, "Haven't you punched, don't you need to leave".management does like to hear thierselves talk. With that said you should look to help improve the safety culture in your center regardless of how much management likes to hear thierselves talk. That is the last straw for me. I am hereby resigning from the safety committee for the following reasons.1: After having realized that I was speaking out of my butt, when telling people to be safe and do the methods, I was not doing, I turned around and did all of the methods, as required, which made me go significantly slower on my route than I had previously gone. My supervisor and manager were all over me about going over 9/5. I told them that I had too much work and had I done the route as it was supposed to be done, in the first place, the stops would be lower than what they assumed I was "capable" of. I received a warning letter for a ONE DAY OJS ride. How can this happen, when they have no comparative data?what exactly were you doing that would save you two hours a day? Big loss from everything you have said. How do you do when the sup ojs's you? You will get a lot of sympathy here from others but it may be time to do some soul searching. two hours is a lot to drop. You could do jumping jacks in between each delivery and not lose two hours. If you work unsafe and don't follow UPS's method you can save two hours a day.  He just proved it.2: The person that delivers the mall has 2 handcarts, and is expected to push/pull both of them, simultaneously. How is this "safe"? Guy probably pushs a baby stroller and shopping cart around on the weekends and does not think anything of it. The answer to the question is: It is not safe to push one handcart while pulling another.  That is an injury waiting to happen.  I wouldn't push a baby stroller and a shopping cart at the same time, either.3: Drivers are working, even though they are injured. drivers decision to do so? Some people are pretty tough and work through minor pain.I agree, that is the drivers decision, but it could cause futher injuries.  Some people are pretty tough, or they just might be a little foolish.4: Drivers still talk on handheld cell phones while driving.Turn em in Who you going to rat them out to?  Management?  From what has been going on, do you think they will do anything?  Maybe if it slows production, they would have a problem with it, but then again not reporting accidents, working unsafe, and working injured is good for the company.5: The myriad of other unsafe behavior that mgmt puts blinders to.If you're managment group is going out and doing regular observations and holding people accountable for unsafe behavior then they are not turning complete blinders to safety. This is where you and the rest of the safety committe comes in. you see unsafe behavior you talk to the driver and fix it without management busting the guys but. Thats a service you could be providing your fellow man. You can talk to the driver about the unsafe behavior, but only they can fix it. It won't have much of an effect on a driver unless management is truely committed that safety is first.MGMT wants to nit pick the things you do when you run "overallowed", but when you are pleasing to the numbers, everything is okay. That being said, I believe that UPS touting safety is a farce. The safety committee is full of politics that I refuse to be a party to. If UPS wanted a real safety committee, they'd make it unattached to corporate mgmt/UPS. As with all of my posts, this has been my opinion.Many of us have that same opinion, but some day we shall over come!!Tie, we see things differently and I truly appreciate your commits.  He didn't quit the safety committee, but instead the committee decided to quit safety.  You shouldn't be involved in something, if you don't agree with it.  It makes you a hypocrite.  The title safety Co-chair might give some one authority, but the best way to lead is by example. </blockquote>

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