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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arizax2" data-source="post: 5661713" data-attributes="member: 21120"><p>I understand that. But the fact is you can still get a raise by staying at the same job. You just have to justify it, give your manager some talking point in why you deserve it so he can convince the DM to sign off on it. It happens more often than you think it's just people don't know how to word it correctly or has a <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2    :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty relationship with their boss. You have to give your boss a reason other than "give me more". Its not a garentee but it's possible especially if the sup is on the lower end of the pay scale.</p></blockquote><p></p>