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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4224980" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>They can't seem to grasp that programs like Medicare can be paid for in an environment where business can flourish and prosper.  But overreaching with expanded programs for all, and using confiscatory taxation to pay for it, putting business on ever stricter regulations to milk them dry, will only cause an eventual collapse of what made the original programs possible.   I know you know this, just putting it out there for consideration.</p></blockquote><p></p>