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<blockquote data-quote="Superteeth2478" data-source="post: 3570145" data-attributes="member: 73024">So everyone seems to think that voting &quot;no&quot; on the National Master Agreement will solve the issue of the IBT leadership being in the pockets of UPS. However, if my interpretation of the IBT Constitution is correct, there are a couple more hurdles to overcome, and one bit of language that could make the whole thing pointless...1. If at least 50% of the membership votes and of that 50% the majority vote the contract down, or if less than 50% vote and at least 2/3 of the voters vote the contract down, then it will be considered an automatic strike vote without the need for a separate strike vote. However, the negotiating committee would first have to deem the offer by UPS to be a &quot;final&quot; offer (regardless of what UPS states it is). So if the negotiating committee is also bought and paid for, they would presumably never deem any offer a &quot;final&quot; offer, and we&#039;ll work under the old contract until it&#039;s eventually voted in by people desperate for their months, possibly years (I doubt it&#039;ll take that long to wear down the membership) of backpay...2. Even if the negotiating committee does deem an offer by UPS to be a &quot;final&quot; offer, and the membership votes it down in a manner that considers it an automatic strike vote as per the Constitution, the negotiating committee, with the approval of the General Executive Board, can suspend or even terminate a strike as per Article XII, Section E. In addition, as if that wasn&#039;t bad enough, Hoffa can suspend or even terminate a strike as per Article XII, Section friend, again with the approval of the General Executive Board.So, long story short, if UPS so chooses to do so, they could easily buy the leadership of the IBT and prevent a strike from ever occurring, or if one does occur, could buy the leadership to easily terminate a strike. And I&#039;m fairly certain that the price that would need to be paid to buy the &quot;integrity&quot; of the leadership is far less than the price of negotiating a fair contract for the workers. And seeing as how a lot of people seem to think that the people in leadership roles under Hoffa are corrupt, I find it hard to believe that UPS won&#039;t be able to buy them all...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Superteeth2478, post: 3570145, member: 73024"] So everyone seems to think that voting "no" on the National Master Agreement will solve the issue of the IBT leadership being in the pockets of UPS. However, if my interpretation of the IBT Constitution is correct, there are a couple more hurdles to overcome, and one bit of language that could make the whole thing pointless... 1. If at least 50% of the membership votes and of that 50% the majority vote the contract down, or if less than 50% vote and at least 2/3 of the voters vote the contract down, then it will be considered an automatic strike vote without the need for a separate strike vote. However, the negotiating committee would first have to deem the offer by UPS to be a "final" offer (regardless of what UPS states it is). So if the negotiating committee is also bought and paid for, they would presumably never deem any offer a "final" offer, and we'll work under the old contract until it's eventually voted in by people desperate for their months, possibly years (I doubt it'll take that long to wear down the membership) of backpay... 2. Even if the negotiating committee does deem an offer by UPS to be a "final" offer, and the membership votes it down in a manner that considers it an automatic strike vote as per the Constitution, the negotiating committee, with the approval of the General Executive Board, can suspend or even terminate a strike as per Article XII, Section E. In addition, as if that wasn't bad enough, Hoffa can suspend or even terminate a strike as per Article XII, Section friend, again with the approval of the General Executive Board. So, long story short, if UPS so chooses to do so, they could easily buy the leadership of the IBT and prevent a strike from ever occurring, or if one does occur, could buy the leadership to easily terminate a strike. And I'm fairly certain that the price that would need to be paid to buy the "integrity" of the leadership is far less than the price of negotiating a fair contract for the workers. And seeing as how a lot of people seem to think that the people in leadership roles under Hoffa are corrupt, I find it hard to believe that UPS won't be able to buy them all... [/QUOTE]

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