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<blockquote data-quote="dmac1" data-source="post: 4715572" data-attributes="member: 60252">And there are plenty of states where having only one so-called &#039;customer&#039; who sets the rules for how you operate makes you an employee, not a business owner, even if you have to hire help.&nbsp;In Oregon, for one exam[le, those people you hire could be found to be fedex employees. Fedex had to drop a case in front of the state&#039;s Supreme Court in order to prevent setting a precedent because they had no way to argue. Several contractor drivers were found to be fedex employees by lower courts, with fedex liable for unemployments taxes, worker&#039;s comp, etc. That is when fedex started requiring proof that the contract owner was actually paying the state taxes and prohibiting payment to drivers as subcontractors.&nbsp;I still find it crazy that fedex can hire contractors to deliver packages, but they DEMAND that anyone they contract with to hire employees.&nbsp;That requirement to hire drivers as employees is one of the conditions that takes away autonomy from contractors and makes it just as likely that the &#039;contractor&#039; would be found to actually be employees of fedex if fedex was their only &#039;client&#039; but because fedex ensures that all employment taxes are paid, they are covered for that liability. Uber, Lyft, Grubhub, etc can all hire &#039;contractors&#039; to do their deliveries, but a fedex &#039;contractor can&#039;t?????? That makes sense.&nbsp;Liability and the simplicity of unionizing if fedex ground hired employees are THE only reasons to set up fake contractors</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dmac1, post: 4715572, member: 60252"] And there are plenty of states where having only one so-called 'customer' who sets the rules for how you operate makes you an employee, not a business owner, even if you have to hire help. In Oregon, for one exam[le, those people you hire could be found to be fedex employees. Fedex had to drop a case in front of the state's Supreme Court in order to prevent setting a precedent because they had no way to argue. Several contractor drivers were found to be fedex employees by lower courts, with fedex liable for unemployments taxes, worker's comp, etc. That is when fedex started requiring proof that the contract owner was actually paying the state taxes and prohibiting payment to drivers as subcontractors. I still find it crazy that fedex can hire contractors to deliver packages, but they DEMAND that anyone they contract with to hire employees. That requirement to hire drivers as employees is one of the conditions that takes away autonomy from contractors and makes it just as likely that the 'contractor' would be found to actually be employees of fedex if fedex was their only 'client' but because fedex ensures that all employment taxes are paid, they are covered for that liability. Uber, Lyft, Grubhub, etc can all hire 'contractors' to do their deliveries, but a fedex 'contractor can't?????? That makes sense. Liability and the simplicity of unionizing if fedex ground hired employees are THE only reasons to set up fake contractors [/QUOTE]

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