Teamster Buyout?

[wayfair]

It is but still funny.

just woke up

 

[Well-Known Member]

That falls under article 6 actually. UPS can give our whatever money they want above and beyond our negotiated prices but at the end of the day you follow the contract for notification of resignation and retirement. Period. Not that I expect the company to be this stupid to pay out backpay and collect tens of thousands of dollars on loan to a ton of employees who did not contractually separate and intend to stay. but hey, you'd never know these days.

For everyone, in the Central at least, this DVSP is following the contract. No Article 6 violation. Probably every other Supplement also.

For the resignation part, you have to sign a form to resign per the contract. In this case, it is a DVSP form.

Central Region Supplement

Article 2 Resignation

When an employee notifies the Employer that they would like to resign, the Employer shall immediately notify the employee in writing of their right to have a steward present. Unless an employee waives their right to a steward in writing, the Employer must use a steward to witness the resignation. If an employee who is voluntarily resigning does not wish to have a steward present, they shall sign the approved resignation or Quit Statement.

The employee is signing a form to separate from the company. The DVSP form. They may elect to have a Steward present if they want. If you do not have the years of service for a pension, you just leave, with a little bit of cash.

For the retirement part...

If you have the required years of service for a pension, you fill out your retirement paperwork and start drawing a pension after you separate from the company. The same as if you retired without signing a DVSP and taking some cash.

This DVSP is not violating the contract. It is actually following what the contract requires to resign, retire, separate, whatever you call it. Just with a little cash.

 

[Michael Scott]

Bro read the statement it makes a distinction between applying in the portal and accepting vs revoking- Looking at it doesn’t do anything but the last paragraph says if you don’t go into the portal and revoke you are agreeing to separate. Did you read this?!?View attachment 526755

All i know is I’m not touching that website. If UPS wants to try and fire me because of it, well I guess I’ll be getting a lot bigger buyout.

 

[MECH-X-LIFT]

Cmon you guys 35+ years in take the buyout! OR THEY WILL FIRE YOU

 

[MECH-X-LIFT]

Bro read the statement it makes a distinction between applying in the portal and accepting vs revoking- Looking at it doesn’t do anything but the last paragraph says if you don’t go into the portal and revoke you are agreeing to separate. Did you read this?!?View attachment 526755

Can’t believe you took the buyout!

 

[Thebrownblob]

For everyone, in the Central at least, this DVSP is following the contract. No Article 6 violation. Probably every other Supplement also.

For the resignation part, you have to sign a form to resign per the contract. In this case, it is a DVSP form.

Central Region Supplement

Article 2 Resignation

When an employee notifies the Employer that they would like to resign, the Employer shall immediately notify the employee in writing of their right to have a steward present. Unless an employee waives their right to a steward in writing, the Employer must use a steward to witness the resignation. If an employee who is voluntarily resigning does not wish to have a steward present, they shall sign the approved resignation or Quit Statement.

The employee is signing a form to separate from the company. The DVSP form. They may elect to have a Steward present if they want. If you do not have the years of service for a pension, you just leave, with a little bit of cash.

For the retirement part...

If you have the required years of service for a pension, you fill out your retirement paperwork and start drawing a pension after you separate from the company. The same as if you retired without signing a DVSP and taking some cash.

This DVSP is not violating the contract. It is actually following what the contract requires to resign, retire, separate, whatever you call it. Just with a little cash.

Pretty much what I’ve been saying. The international doesn’t like it, but they’re not going to stop it.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Pretty much what I’ve been saying. The international doesn’t like it, but they’re not going to stop it.

If they throw in a turkey

I will accept the offer.

 

[Thebrownblob]

If they throw in a turkey

I will accept the offer.

We are the turkeys

 

[Thebrownblob]

Cmon you guys 35+ years in take the buyout! OR THEY WILL FIRE YOU

Funny reading those comments on Reddit and YouTube from people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

Or the other funny one if you don’t take the buyout, UPS is gonna make the job miserable.


Ummm too late the job has been miserable for 33 years. I’ve been here..

 

[UPSmechanicinblue]

For everyone, in the Central at least, this DVSP is following the contract. No Article 6 violation. Probably every other Supplement also.

For the resignation part, you have to sign a form to resign per the contract. In this case, it is a DVSP form.

Central Region Supplement

Article 2 Resignation

When an employee notifies the Employer that they would like to resign, the Employer shall immediately notify the employee in writing of their right to have a steward present. Unless an employee waives their right to a steward in writing, the Employer must use a steward to witness the resignation. If an employee who is voluntarily resigning does not wish to have a steward present, they shall sign the approved resignation or Quit Statement.

The employee is signing a form to separate from the company. The DVSP form. They may elect to have a Steward present if they want. If you do not have the years of service for a pension, you just leave, with a little bit of cash.

For the retirement part...

If you have the required years of service for a pension, you fill out your retirement paperwork and start drawing a pension after you separate from the company. The same as if you retired without signing a DVSP and taking some cash.

This DVSP is not violating the contract. It is actually following what the contract requires to resign, retire, separate, whatever you call it. Just with a little cash.

what about this in the national master? the whole buy out is not


Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or collectively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any document, either individually or collectively, which in any way conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agreement or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity

 

[MECH-X-LIFT]

Funny reading those comments on Reddit and YouTube from people who don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.

Or the other funny one if you don’t take the buyout, UPS is gonna make the job miserable.


Ummm too late the job has been miserable for 33 years. I’ve been here..

21:00 eta !

 

[Thebrownblob]

what about this in the national master? the whole buy out is not


Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or collectively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any document, either individually or collectively, which in any way conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agreement or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity

Doesn’t sound like the company is forcing anyone to sign any document. It’s voluntary.

 

[MECH-X-LIFT]

Poor UPS didn’t offer enough , we will write our counter offers on the paper and RTS the buyout letter.

 

[UPSmechanicinblue]

Doesn’t sound like the company is forcing anyone to sign any document. It’s voluntary.

Doesn’t sound like the company is forcing anyone to sign any document. It’s voluntary.

the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or collectively

 

[Thebrownblob]

the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or collectively

Agreements that provide more money happen often and have been fought and lost.

Bonus system MRA, etc., etc.

 

[Well-Known Member]

what about this in the national master? the whole buy out is not


Section 1. Extra Contract Agreements Except as may be otherwise provided in this Agreement, the Employer agrees not to enter into, or attempt to enter into, any agreement or contract with its employees, either individually or collectively, or to require or attempt to require employees to sign any document, either individually or collectively, which in any way conflicts with the provisions of this Agreement. Any such Agreement or document shall be null and void. Any such agreement or document may not be placed in an employee’s file or used by the Employer as a basis for discipline or used in connection with any disciplinary proceeding, nor may any such agreement or document nor the contents thereof be divulged to any person or entity

Signing a form to separate, resign, retire, whatever you want to call it, does does conflict with any provision in the Agreement.

As a matter of fact, some Supplements actually require you to sign a form to resign. That's all you're doing. Resigning.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Signing a form to separate, resign, retire, whatever you want to call it, does does conflict with any provision in the Agreement.

As a matter of fact, some Supplements actually require you to sign a form to resign. That's all you're doing. Resigning.

Voluntarily

 

[over9five]

Nobody's business but your own when you choose to retire.

 

[Well-Known Member]

Voluntarily

Yep.

And they refer to it as separating so that you are still eligible for all the retirement benefits you have earned.

 

[UPSmechanicinblue]

Signing a form to separate, resign, retire, whatever you want to call it, does does conflict with any provision in the Agreement.

As a matter of fact, some Supplements actually require you to sign a form to resign. That's all you're doing. Resigning.

you very well could be correct!! we will find out in the end I just see a mess in the future, for the ones that just left miss out like me even tho it's not offered to mechanics, Drivers that wait and get even a bigger amount than the ones that accepted the first offer prior will miss out. Also only doing it on local needs I hear where drivers with 40 years gets turned down and the other building in nearby different local guy has example 30 years gets the buy out. What if driver bid a inside job last year after 35 years of service? I see a huge mess nothing negotiated and lots of legal issues for UPS