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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 4965638" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>Study what happened in “97”..Carey and his negotiating committees did not allow the membership to vote on UPS’s ( Last and Final Contract Offer). </p><p></p><p>They got the strike vote prior with close to the same percentages as the 2018 contract. There was some belly aching by the members who wanted to vote on the original in order to avoid a nation wide strike...I believe that this was only the second work stoppage at UPS in it’s long history, the other one was back in the mid seventies.</p><p></p><p>Carey’s decision is a clear indication that he knew that the membership would pass UPS’s original offer...It was based really on their attempt to take over all our pensions, including the Western. The creation of the new 22.3 inside positions was to provide much needed funding for the troubled teamsters controlled pension plans.</p><p></p><p>As far as members crossing the picket line even if they were hostile or disagreeing with the strike...It never happened. What the company was thinking I have no clue, the Union negotiators back then were two steps ahead of the Company’s in every decision. I guess they were disparate because of the mounting liabilities related to the Central Trust primarily.</p><p></p><p>That is why it is so important to have leadership that will make the tough decisions that will affect the rank and file’s future, guarantee that if UPS did get control of every members pension the West coast pension benefits would be similar to the IBT/UPS and the UPS Pension Plan for part timers.</p><p></p><p>The Union has well documented history of past practices by the Company to support that claim.</p><p></p><p>Carey did have charisma that Hoffa never had, he was a loose cannon and the company knew it, he really tried to reach out to his membership. Every week we got a news letter with information about the deadline and what was being negotiated. I don’t know the whole history on why he was ousted but a lot of it was due to his decision to call a strike, which even Hoffa supported. </p><p></p><p>There will “NEVER” be another strike at UPS again...that 3 week one in “97” almost drove the economy into the ground...another one in today’s market will crush it, the feds will have a vested interest and the shareholders will storm the bastilles looking for some heads to chop off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 4965638, member: 49065"] Study what happened in “97”..Carey and his negotiating committees did not allow the membership to vote on UPS’s ( Last and Final Contract Offer). They got the strike vote prior with close to the same percentages as the 2018 contract. There was some belly aching by the members who wanted to vote on the original in order to avoid a nation wide strike...I believe that this was only the second work stoppage at UPS in it’s long history, the other one was back in the mid seventies. Carey’s decision is a clear indication that he knew that the membership would pass UPS’s original offer...It was based really on their attempt to take over all our pensions, including the Western. The creation of the new 22.3 inside positions was to provide much needed funding for the troubled teamsters controlled pension plans. As far as members crossing the picket line even if they were hostile or disagreeing with the strike...It never happened. What the company was thinking I have no clue, the Union negotiators back then were two steps ahead of the Company’s in every decision. I guess they were disparate because of the mounting liabilities related to the Central Trust primarily. That is why it is so important to have leadership that will make the tough decisions that will affect the rank and file’s future, guarantee that if UPS did get control of every members pension the West coast pension benefits would be similar to the IBT/UPS and the UPS Pension Plan for part timers. The Union has well documented history of past practices by the Company to support that claim. Carey did have charisma that Hoffa never had, he was a loose cannon and the company knew it, he really tried to reach out to his membership. Every week we got a news letter with information about the deadline and what was being negotiated. I don’t know the whole history on why he was ousted but a lot of it was due to his decision to call a strike, which even Hoffa supported. There will “NEVER” be another strike at UPS again...that 3 week one in “97” almost drove the economy into the ground...another one in today’s market will crush it, the feds will have a vested interest and the shareholders will storm the bastilles looking for some heads to chop off. [/QUOTE]
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