Teamsters/UPS 2018 Contract

[brownwings]

I was hired off the street last November to be a package car driver. I got pretty lucky with how it all went down. I'm obviously the low man and make 18.75 an HR and don't always get to work. I was told about the 4 year progression to top wage. My only worry is if the new contract in 2018 comes out and makes the progression longer or wage lower. Do I have to wait or am I grandfathered into the progression I was hired at???? Thanks for any feedback

 

[Catatonic]

Normally, you are grandfathered but if Hogfa wins the IBT again ... your guess is as good as anybody's.

 

[Rack em]

You get grandfathered in. So November 2018 you should be top rate

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You get grandfathered in. So November 2018 you should be top rate

Are you sure?

Hired 11/15, 11/16 (1st year), 11/17 (2nd year), 11/18 (3rd year), 11/19 (4th year---top rate).

 

[Rack em]

Oh maybe you're right. That means I'm screwed too

I went FT in June 2015

 

[brownwings]

From what I was told I get 3 raises. 11/16 to 19.50. 11/17 to around 25. 11/18 to top pay

 

[brownwings]

I could be wrong as well, can't trust a whole lot sups say!!!

 

[olroadbeech]

I could be wrong as well, can't trust a whole lot sups say!!!

you're asking sups? how about asking a union steward.

 

[Notretiredyet]

Once in progression contractual changes have never increased the time of those already in progression.

 

[MendozaJ]

Start $18.75
Seniority $18.75
Twelve (12) months $19.50
Twenty-four (24) months $21.00
Thirty-six (36) months $25.00
Forty-eight (48) months Top Rate

 

[TooTechie]

Are you sure?

Your progression is based on the contract in force when you made seniority, unless otherwise stipulated in a future contract, however in the past everyone has always been grandfathered, even if it is to the driver's detriment. I was hired under one contract then a new one was ratified resulting in new drivers off the street making more money than me for a while until the progression caught up and I passed them.

 

[Billy Ray]

You were hired of the street, and you're worried about progression?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Normally, you are grandfathered but if Hogfa wins the IBT again ... your guess is as good as anybody's.

40 year progression?

 

[MrBrown]

Start $18.75
Seniority $18.75
Twelve (12) months $19.50
Twenty-four (24) months $21.00
Thirty-six (36) months $25.00
Forty-eight (48) months Top Rate

Mmm just hit 21. I work with some guys who say progression used 2 b 6 months. 4 years is a little long. We're not learning a traditional trade. You can either deliver packages or you can't

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Mmm just hit 21. I work with some guys who say progression used 2 b 6 months. 4 years is a little long. We're not learning a traditional trade. You can either deliver packages or you can't

That's the way it is. Blame the yes voters.

 

[Billy Ray]

The plan is...... to burn drivers out after 10 years, and they only have to pay full wage for the last 6 years.

Repeat the process.

 

[The Blackadder]

Mmm just hit 21. I work with some guys who say progression used 2 b 6 months. 4 years is a little long. We're not learning a traditional trade. You can either deliver packages or you can't

Also its not like they expect the new guys to do less then the regular drivers, in fact they expect them to do more.

 

[brownwings]

Thanks for the feedback everybody

 

[brownwings]

I worry about progression because I don't have a lot of seniority. A normal week for me is 3 days of driving. 3 days of 18.75hr too 3 days of top pay is a big difference. I have to make a plan for my family's future. Just didn't want to get screwed by a new contract. Sounds like I wont.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Also its not like they expect the new guys to do less then the regular drivers, in fact they expect them to do more.

Sure. Take advantage of the cheaper labor.