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<blockquote data-quote="oldupsman" data-source="post: 1134358" data-attributes="member: 42268">Re: Last - best - finalHoax, I&#039;ve read your posts for along time and you truly have my respect as a long time UPS&#039;er, management or not. And your the kind of center manager(don&#039;t know if you were one) I could have worked for and never had a problem. But there is no way if currently you have UPS health care thatyou are getting more in this new contract. I don&#039;t care if we were getting a dollar a year for 5 years. The extra money you&#039;ll be paying out far outweighsthat hourly raise.And you know what? I&#039;m about to nominate myself for martyr. I&#039;m already retired. If this thing passes, I&#039;ll survive. I&#039;ve only got 4 more years until Medicare anyway. The 300 a monthand reduced benefits won&#039;t make or break me. But if you&#039;re in your 20&#039;s,30&#039;s, or 40&#039;s and intend to make UPS your career this is really a bad deal. And I&#039;m going to goto my local meeting whenever it is and tell the young people that very thing. They might very well tell oldupsman to go pound sand. But I hope they listen.Because for a company making 4 billion a year, this truly stinks. But I won&#039;t put all the blame at the company&#039;s feet. It is certainly a fair question to ask,What the hell is the IBT thinking.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="oldupsman, post: 1134358, member: 42268"] [b]Re: Last - best - final[/b] Hoax, I've read your posts for along time and you truly have my respect as a long time UPS'er, management or not. And your the kind of center manager (don't know if you were one) I could have worked for and never had a problem. But there is no way if currently you have UPS health care that you are getting more in this new contract. I don't care if we were getting a dollar a year for 5 years. The extra money you'll be paying out far outweighs that hourly raise. And you know what? I'm about to nominate myself for martyr. I'm already retired. If this thing passes, I'll survive. I've only got 4 more years until Medicare anyway. The 300 a month and reduced benefits won't make or break me. But if you're in your 20's,30's, or 40's and intend to make UPS your career this is really a bad deal. And I'm going to go to my local meeting whenever it is and tell the young people that very thing. They might very well tell oldupsman to go pound sand. But I hope they listen. Because for a company making 4 billion a year, this truly stinks. But I won't put all the blame at the company's feet. It is certainly a fair question to ask, What the hell is the IBT thinking. [/QUOTE]

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