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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5708761" data-attributes="member: 24302">I would prefer that it never happened.  But if a girl is molested or a woman raped then terminating a mass of cells doesn't bother me too much.  But let the baby develop enough to have a heartbeat and pain sensors and I think it's murder.  Health issues aren't that rare.  My family had a good friend when I was a kid who had several kids.  Got pregnant again but had developed a heart issue.  Doctor told her she risked dying if the baby wasn't aborted.  She refused to do that and did die while giving birth.  I have a cousin who lost his first wife in childbirth.  Compared to the number of healthy births it's a small percentage but it does happen.</blockquote>