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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5782172" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Can I ask you something? Did the Founding Fathers create a system that was different from other systems in that day and age? If so was it better or worse? Can you point to any Western nation in that era that was far superior for the common man? It's really easy for Hedges to Monday morning quarterback and pick apart everything but ultimately are we better off for the system they founded? It is, and always has been, a work in progress. How many black Americans are saying screw this, I'm going back to Africa? How many Native Americans are doing without modern appliances, preferring to live in the shelters their ancestors lived in? Go hunting with bow and arrow rather than shop at a modern supermarket?</p><p></p><p>Your constant refrain is it's evil, it's evil, let's replace it. Yet you have said many times it's the richest country on Earth. How did such an evil place get so wealthy? Our system works because of the constant refinement of the marketplace. It isn't perfect. Sometimes it feels like you're getting chewed up and spit out. But the saying that it's the worst economic system except for every other economic system is true. It's what you are willing to put into it. Some want all the perks without making the effort. Is that you? There are no guarantees and yes companies can be, and are, exploitive. But if you're going to make a living it's the place to be. All those millions who've crossed our borders in the last three years weren't just crossing us to get to Canada. They're here, most of them, to get the chance to make a better life than they could back home. Bitch and moan all you want, the U.S. is still the place to have a dream and fulfill it. So lead, follow, or get the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> out of the way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5782172, member: 24302"] Can I ask you something? Did the Founding Fathers create a system that was different from other systems in that day and age? If so was it better or worse? Can you point to any Western nation in that era that was far superior for the common man? It's really easy for Hedges to Monday morning quarterback and pick apart everything but ultimately are we better off for the system they founded? It is, and always has been, a work in progress. How many black Americans are saying screw this, I'm going back to Africa? How many Native Americans are doing without modern appliances, preferring to live in the shelters their ancestors lived in? Go hunting with bow and arrow rather than shop at a modern supermarket? Your constant refrain is it's evil, it's evil, let's replace it. Yet you have said many times it's the richest country on Earth. How did such an evil place get so wealthy? Our system works because of the constant refinement of the marketplace. It isn't perfect. Sometimes it feels like you're getting chewed up and spit out. But the saying that it's the worst economic system except for every other economic system is true. It's what you are willing to put into it. Some want all the perks without making the effort. Is that you? There are no guarantees and yes companies can be, and are, exploitive. But if you're going to make a living it's the place to be. All those millions who've crossed our borders in the last three years weren't just crossing us to get to Canada. They're here, most of them, to get the chance to make a better life than they could back home. Bitch and moan all you want, the U.S. is still the place to have a dream and fulfill it. So lead, follow, or get the :censored: out of the way. [/QUOTE]
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