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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5782664" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>He's flat out lying.  First, most estimates I've seen for what is now the U.S. were about 8 million people here when Columbus landed.  About 20-30 million more in the rest of the Americas.  We didn't kill most of them.  Most died from accidentally introduced diseases that they had no immunity to.  There was absolutely war with most of the rest.  But other than some massacres, on both sides, there wasn't systematic genocide.  If we wanted genocide we would've just killed them all.</p></blockquote><p></p>