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<blockquote data-quote="Johnny Paycheck" data-source="post: 1294540" data-attributes="member: 51820">There are many differences between government and a corporation. For one, governments are not established for profit. For two, unlike corporations, who rely on revenue paid to them by customers based (in theory) on the quality of their goods or services, government has complete control over how much revenue they receive in the form of taxes, because they write the tax laws. If Scott Walker were so concerned with the budget, he would not say he would a $541 million tax break, signing away half a billion in revenue. Which he did, 2 days ago. I certainly don&#039;t think it would cost half a billion to make sure your state workers have a decent pension or are allowed raises.But now that we&#039;re back to the contract, I don&#039;t have to justify a &quot;concessionary contract for union workers at a highly profitable company,&quot; the vast majority have already done that. UPS workers have no idea how great they&#039;ve got it because they&#039;ve never done anything else. You act like every other worker with no college education is just swimming in pools of pensions, free health, and high wages and we are the persecuted minority. Nobody else has it as good as UPS does, ask Fedex, ask the auto workers, ask the mechanics, plumbers, and linesmen. You&#039;re making Upper-middle class wages, higher than most white collars, to drive a truck and throw a box at someone&#039;s door. You have a retirement pension, full healthcare for you and your family, tuition assistance, etc. Am I saying that&#039;s a bad thing? Hell no. Thank God for our union. But to pretend like everyone else has it so good while we starve is idiotic, and a large part of why I think the public has such a negative view of unions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Johnny Paycheck, post: 1294540, member: 51820"] There are many differences between government and a corporation. For one, governments are not established for profit. For two, unlike corporations, who rely on revenue paid to them by customers based (in theory) on the quality of their goods or services, government has complete control over how much revenue they receive in the form of taxes, because they write the tax laws. If Scott Walker were so concerned with the budget, he would not say he would a $541 million tax break, signing away half a billion in revenue. Which he did, 2 days ago. I certainly don't think it would cost half a billion to make sure your state workers have a decent pension or are allowed raises. But now that we're back to the contract, I don't have to justify a "concessionary contract for union workers at a highly profitable company," the vast majority have already done that. UPS workers have no idea how great they've got it because they've never done anything else. You act like every other worker with no college education is just swimming in pools of pensions, free health, and high wages and we are the persecuted minority. Nobody else has it as good as UPS does, ask Fedex, ask the auto workers, ask the mechanics, plumbers, and linesmen. You're making Upper-middle class wages, higher than most white collars, to drive a truck and throw a box at someone's door. You have a retirement pension, full healthcare for you and your family, tuition assistance, etc. Am I saying that's a bad thing? Hell no. Thank God for our union. But to pretend like everyone else has it so good while we starve is idiotic, and a large part of why I think the public has such a negative view of unions. [/QUOTE]

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