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<blockquote data-quote="Just A UPS Guy" data-source="post: 5677640" data-attributes="member: 73174">We get more with the same money as everyone else. We invest the same pay, and do it better, it&#039;s as fair as it gets. No one will be getting $25k more than you in the next 5 years. I never said that, I know our money didn&#039;t go to you, it went to &quot;historic&quot; raises for a bunch of people who won&#039;t be here next peak. I&#039;ve said you deserve your pension increase, and then some. I never implied or pointed to anything otherwise. I always acknowledged that my increase was diverted into raises. I didn&#039;t say those things, nor did I ever imply such. You keep making up exorbitant numbers for our pension and you&#039;re not even close. You just keep pointing out how we don&#039;t deserve a contribution increase because we &quot;have enough&quot; and &quot;that&#039;s not what a pension is for.&quot; Well, you don&#039;t get to decide what is enough for me, or what my pension is for. I just pointed out how in this contract that increases the cost to the company from $13B to over $30B and somehow we can&#039;t keep the contribution increases. And you make it out like it&#039;s just me, there are probably a dozen funds that are getting <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ed the same way, while Sean&#039;s fund gets a huge hourly boost. I get the legalities if it, but it&#039;s a bad look nonetheless. Pensions all over had their contribution increases stolen because &quot;their actuaries said they didn&#039;t need it&quot; or some bull<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />. They didn&#039;t need them to keep the fund in the green zone, so no fund will die in the next 5 years. I&#039;m betting no FT teamster said they wanted historic raises, even at the expense of their pension.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Just A UPS Guy, post: 5677640, member: 73174"] We get more with the same money as everyone else. We invest the same pay, and do it better, it's as fair as it gets. No one will be getting $25k more than you in the next 5 years. I never said that, I know our money didn't go to you, it went to "historic" raises for a bunch of people who won't be here next peak. I've said you deserve your pension increase, and then some. I never implied or pointed to anything otherwise. I always acknowledged that my increase was diverted into raises. I didn't say those things, nor did I ever imply such. You keep making up exorbitant numbers for our pension and you're not even close. You just keep pointing out how we don't deserve a contribution increase because we "have enough" and "that's not what a pension is for." Well, you don't get to decide what is enough for me, or what my pension is for. I just pointed out how in this contract that increases the cost to the company from $13B to over $30B and somehow we can't keep the contribution increases. And you make it out like it's just me, there are probably a dozen funds that are getting :censored:ed the same way, while Sean's fund gets a huge hourly boost. I get the legalities if it, but it's a bad look nonetheless. Pensions all over had their contribution increases stolen because "their actuaries said they didn't need it" or some bull:censored:. They didn't need them to keep the fund in the green zone, so no fund will die in the next 5 years. I'm betting no FT teamster said they wanted historic raises, even at the expense of their pension. [/QUOTE]

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