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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5725815" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>The fact is for thousands of years land is held if you can hold it.  If you're pushed off it in warfare you have to come up with an alternative.  The Muslims have had no qualms in their history forcing others off their land but can't handle others doing it to them.  As long as Israel is surrounded by Muslims this is never going to end.  I know you know this but want to spell it out for some here.</p></blockquote><p></p>