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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 6027604" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>The Russians aren&#039;t going to invade us or any other NATO country.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think this war could have been avoided 2 years ago because Putin at that time made it clear he wanted the whole country.&nbsp; But at this point it&#039;s either get everyone killed and every city destroyed or negotiate for peace and give up the eastern areas where ethnic Russians are the predominant group.&nbsp; The Russians have lost a lot more men but they can afford the losses more easily than Ukraine.&nbsp; I appreciate the Ukrainians fighting for their freedom but now the best course might be to end the war then rebuild their defenses so that the Russians would decide twenty years from now it&#039;s not worth it.&nbsp; Russia&#039;s demographics were already skewed heavily older with not enough younger people.&nbsp; This war killed hundreds of thousands of young men they could ill afford to lose.&nbsp; With hundreds or thousands of men having fled the country with many of them maybe never returning.&nbsp; I think Putin would like this wrapped up with something to show for not only their losses but also by being exposed by the Ukrainians as not the fighting machine they liked to believe about themselves and had European countries worried about.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 6027604, member: 24302"] The Russians aren't going to invade us or any other NATO country. I don't think this war could have been avoided 2 years ago because Putin at that time made it clear he wanted the whole country. But at this point it's either get everyone killed and every city destroyed or negotiate for peace and give up the eastern areas where ethnic Russians are the predominant group. The Russians have lost a lot more men but they can afford the losses more easily than Ukraine. I appreciate the Ukrainians fighting for their freedom but now the best course might be to end the war then rebuild their defenses so that the Russians would decide twenty years from now it's not worth it. Russia's demographics were already skewed heavily older with not enough younger people. This war killed hundreds of thousands of young men they could ill afford to lose. With hundreds or thousands of men having fled the country with many of them maybe never returning. I think Putin would like this wrapped up with something to show for not only their losses but also by being exposed by the Ukrainians as not the fighting machine they liked to believe about themselves and had European countries worried about. [/QUOTE]

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