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<blockquote data-quote="Next Day Err" data-source="post: 6075171" data-attributes="member: 107379">Putin would never attack if there were NATO troops in Ukraine. He sent his Wagner Forces after U.S. troops in Syria or at the very least didn’t say to be very careful not to do so as a condition of their mercenary services through his client state. They got wiped out as expected. Obama was right that Ukraine was vulnerable but we gave them an inch. They tried taking a mile and couldn’t even do that. They would never risk the wrath of NATO by breaking a ceasefire with Ukraine. It would let him save face by getting the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> out with some kind of deal that he could lie to his people about and we could secure peace through strength. I’m telling you right now that if we appease him through this weakness by not conditioning as part of the agreement a NATO backstop for Ukraine then he will attack again, American mining presence or not.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Next Day Err, post: 6075171, member: 107379"] Putin would never attack if there were NATO troops in Ukraine. He sent his Wagner Forces after U.S. troops in Syria or at the very least didn’t say to be very careful not to do so as a condition of their mercenary services through his client state. They got wiped out as expected. Obama was right that Ukraine was vulnerable but we gave them an inch. They tried taking a mile and couldn’t even do that. They would never risk the wrath of NATO by breaking a ceasefire with Ukraine. It would let him save face by getting the :censored: out with some kind of deal that he could lie to his people about and we could secure peace through strength. I’m telling you right now that if we appease him through this weakness by not conditioning as part of the agreement a NATO backstop for Ukraine then he will attack again, American mining presence or not. [/QUOTE]

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