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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 1285176" data-attributes="member: 8481">Stonefish...You sound just like my BA. WE can agree to disagree, but it is people like you who keep telling other members that things like 17i and healthcare cannot change are doing more harm than good.&nbsp;Yes, labor law does not allow the re-opening of the NMUPSA or the CRS to the NMUPSA to change that agreement, but any supplement or rider overrides any other existing document. We can include article 17 in the Ohio Rider and delete 17i. This is legal, binding and can be done. Will it? No. But it can legally be done.&nbsp;The same with healthcare. The letter of understanding in the Ohio Rider just needs to be changed. Instead of &quot;Local 348 will maintain their current Health and Welfare Plan.&quot; This can be changes to &quot;all employee will maintain their current Health and Welfare Plan.&nbsp;Again, will these changes take place. I agree with you...NO!!! 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. We both agree that this is a dead issue, but please do not mislead people. Hoffa and Hall are already doing the hat dance, half truths.&nbsp;Your half truth is that the NMUPSA and CRS cannot be re-opened and changed. TRUE. But language can be inserted into the Ohio Rider to change these issues.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 1285176, member: 8481"] Stonefish...You sound just like my BA. WE can agree to disagree, but it is people like you who keep telling other members that things like 17i and healthcare cannot change are doing more harm than good. Yes, labor law does not allow the re-opening of the NMUPSA or the CRS to the NMUPSA to change that agreement, but any supplement or rider overrides any other existing document. We can include article 17 in the Ohio Rider and delete 17i. This is legal, binding and can be done. Will it? No. But it can legally be done. The same with healthcare. The letter of understanding in the Ohio Rider just needs to be changed. Instead of "Local 348 will maintain their current Health and Welfare Plan." This can be changes to "all employee will maintain their current Health and Welfare Plan. Again, will these changes take place. I agree with you...NO!!! 6 of one, half a dozen of the other. We both agree that this is a dead issue, but please do not mislead people. Hoffa and Hall are already doing the hat dance, half truths. Your half truth is that the NMUPSA and CRS cannot be re-opened and changed. TRUE. But language can be inserted into the Ohio Rider to change these issues. [/QUOTE]

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