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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 1285678" data-attributes="member: 8481">How can it be a half truth if you agree the National and Central can not be reopened. Let&#039;s keep going back and forth. You also agree it isn&#039;t going to change in the Ohio Rider. I am anticipating your response.</blockquote>&nbsp;The NMUPSA and CRS cannot be re-opened and re-negotiated, but language can be added to the Ohio Rider to supersede the language in the NMUPSA and CRS. Hoffa is not telling anyone this. He makes it look like it is a done deal in the NMUPSA and cannot be changed. Half truth. It cannot be changed, but it can be overrode by a rider.&nbsp;I say it will not happen because most members don&#039;t have the balls anymore to stand up to UPS let alone Hoffa &quot;AND&quot; UPS. If enough people stood together and continued to vote no, maybe Hoffa and UPS might address our concerns and add language in the Ohio Rider that most of us want. &nbsp;Being an optimist, our healthcare could remain the same (no Teamcare) and 17i could be eliminated.&nbsp;Being a realist, it ain&#039;t going to happen because not enough people will stand up to Hoffa.&nbsp;To summarize, Hoffa is saying it cannot change. Lie. It can. Do I think it will change. No. But it can.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 1285678, member: 8481"] How can it be a half truth if you agree the National and Central can not be reopened. Let's keep going back and forth. You also agree it isn't going to change in the Ohio Rider. I am anticipating your response.[/quote] The NMUPSA and CRS cannot be re-opened and re-negotiated, but language can be added to the Ohio Rider to supersede the language in the NMUPSA and CRS. Hoffa is not telling anyone this. He makes it look like it is a done deal in the NMUPSA and cannot be changed. Half truth. It cannot be changed, but it can be overrode by a rider. I say it will not happen because most members don't have the balls anymore to stand up to UPS let alone Hoffa "AND" UPS. If enough people stood together and continued to vote no, maybe Hoffa and UPS might address our concerns and add language in the Ohio Rider that most of us want. Being an optimist, our healthcare could remain the same (no Teamcare) and 17i could be eliminated. Being a realist, it ain't going to happen because not enough people will stand up to Hoffa. To summarize, Hoffa is saying it cannot change. Lie. It can. Do I think it will change. No. But it can. [/QUOTE]

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