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Message: <blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 6096485" data-attributes="member: 58700">farmers have always needed incentives and bailouts.  the only hope we have to get them off the government teat is to actually open markets to them.  we buy australian beef but cant sell ours in australia.  canada protects their dairy by doing volume tariffs that increase the more we sell.  low if we sell a little 400 percent if we try to sell alot.  china has their own tariffs on our produce. trumps trying to open those markets to them so we don't have to prop them up.</blockquote>