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<blockquote data-quote="klein" data-source="post: 798642" data-attributes="member: 23950">Soberups, don&#039;t know where you learned History or get your information from.&nbsp;Germany (Hitler) alone could have taken Russia out, if they weren&#039;t fighting wars on every front.The red army was only 10 Million strong.&nbsp;The Germans also had a brief take-over of Stalingrad, where the Russians built the T34 tanks (best tanks the Germans have ever seen).Anyways, so they had access to that factory, - now not sure what they did with it, or if the Russians destroyed it before it got into German hands.&nbsp;The Russians later only got A-Bomb buliding knowledge from leaks in the US.&nbsp;I recently just watched History channel, they had real good live footage from WWII, and great commentary.The first smaller cities the Germans captured, the Russians actually cheered on the German Army.They thought anything is better then the Stalin regime.&nbsp;Would have been a cakewalk, to fight the Russians at that time, and probably still today, without nuclear weapons.The west has better equipment all along the way (better guns, tanks, fighter jets, ships, etc).&nbsp;The Russians were actually never very successful in wars: Afghanistan (I suppose, thanks to the US for supporting the Taliban back then), but even later in Georgia. I think the NATO back then could have easily taken back East Germany, the CSSR, Hungaria, Bulgaria, Poland.What could have the Russians done ? The citizens of those countries would have supported the NATO troops, too !&nbsp;Forgot to mention : German in Russia war casualties : 3.5 Million russians, and 1 million german soldiers (many that simply froze to death, due to the harsh winter, wrong timing to be there, and no adequate winter clothing nor gear ).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="klein, post: 798642, member: 23950"] Soberups, don't know where you learned History or get your information from. Germany (Hitler) alone could have taken Russia out, if they weren't fighting wars on every front. The red army was only 10 Million strong. The Germans also had a brief take-over of Stalingrad, where the Russians built the T34 tanks (best tanks the Germans have ever seen). Anyways, so they had access to that factory, - now not sure what they did with it, or if the Russians destroyed it before it got into German hands. The Russians later only got A-Bomb buliding knowledge from leaks in the US. I recently just watched History channel, they had real good live footage from WWII, and great commentary. The first smaller cities the Germans captured, the Russians actually cheered on the German Army. They thought anything is better then the Stalin regime. Would have been a cakewalk, to fight the Russians at that time, and probably still today, without nuclear weapons. The west has better equipment all along the way (better guns, tanks, fighter jets, ships, etc). The Russians were actually never very successful in wars: Afghanistan (I suppose, thanks to the US for supporting the Taliban back then), but even later in Georgia. I think the NATO back then could have easily taken back East Germany, the CSSR, Hungaria, Bulgaria, Poland. What could have the Russians done ? The citizens of those countries would have supported the NATO troops, too ! Forgot to mention : German in Russia war casualties : 3.5 Million russians, and 1 million german soldiers (many that simply froze to death, due to the harsh winter, wrong timing to be there, and no adequate winter clothing nor gear ). [/QUOTE]

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