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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3818290" data-attributes="member: 63706">I am completely pro collective bargaining. But, just as corporate structure has some issues, union structure also has problems. The individual must have freedom, without it the operatives of a union, or any other social structure, have no incentive to stay honest or earn their keep. There is a way to both maximize individual liberty and maintain social cohesion, but it takes effort. Calling out people in leadership positions who fail to properly lead is the responsibility of every free thinking individual within any social structure. It&#039;s the yes-man sheep who go along to get along that prevent accountibility of people in leadership positions. I&#039;ve been thinking long and hard about what my future involvement with the union will be after the abortion that was the 2018 UPS contract vote. I have no desire to seek a leadership role myself, nor should I have to in order to be considered &quot;involved enough&quot;. I thought about resigning my stewardship in protest, but that is just escapism. I have been approached by members of TDU to get me to join, but I don&#039;t think I like the way they operate. Instead I think I will take every opportunity to educate those around me to the reality of what has happened, and what will continue to happen if we let it. I encourage everyone who sees the reality of the situation we are in to do the same. You know the sheep will continue to push the propaganda.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3818290, member: 63706"] I am completely pro collective bargaining. But, just as corporate structure has some issues, union structure also has problems. The individual must have freedom, without it the operatives of a union, or any other social structure, have no incentive to stay honest or earn their keep. There is a way to both maximize individual liberty and maintain social cohesion, but it takes effort. Calling out people in leadership positions who fail to properly lead is the responsibility of every free thinking individual within any social structure. It's the yes-man sheep who go along to get along that prevent accountibility of people in leadership positions. I've been thinking long and hard about what my future involvement with the union will be after the abortion that was the 2018 UPS contract vote. I have no desire to seek a leadership role myself, nor should I have to in order to be considered "involved enough". I thought about resigning my stewardship in protest, but that is just escapism. I have been approached by members of TDU to get me to join, but I don't think I like the way they operate. Instead I think I will take every opportunity to educate those around me to the reality of what has happened, and what will continue to happen if we let it. I encourage everyone who sees the reality of the situation we are in to do the same. You know the sheep will continue to push the propaganda. [/QUOTE]

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