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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 6110510" data-attributes="member: 58700">From a US perspective our diplomatic plan to deal with Putin has been to do so quietly this goes back to the Obama days&nbsp; where he preferred quiet diplomacy over Trumps style of public .&nbsp; Our &quot;experts&quot; have probably been advising this approach all along to various presidents. Even Biden would not do more than call Putin a killer one time in public.&nbsp; Theres nothing wrong with that other than it gives your political opponents an opportunity to bash you for being a putin puppet. So the right has accused Obama of such and of course we know what the left has done with trump on that subject. We still have many options to employ . Sanctions for the most part are a joke. I would think attacking Putins being able to fund his war with oil sales should be a prime target.&nbsp; we can also move offensive weapons into the closest Nato countries which Putin absolutely does not want. And if all else fails threaten to make the Ukraine a country of Nato and put Nato right on his doorstep. The last thing in my humble opinion that we should do is keep throwing more money into that meat grinder.the one solution i think that had to be tried that no one wanted to try was to actually try to settle this diplomatically . At least that effort is now being made and we can either be successful or mark it off the list.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="newfie, post: 6110510, member: 58700"] From a US perspective our diplomatic plan to deal with Putin has been to do so quietly this goes back to the Obama days where he preferred quiet diplomacy over Trumps style of public . Our "experts" have probably been advising this approach all along to various presidents. Even Biden would not do more than call Putin a killer one time in public. Theres nothing wrong with that other than it gives your political opponents an opportunity to bash you for being a putin puppet. So the right has accused Obama of such and of course we know what the left has done with trump on that subject. We still have many options to employ . Sanctions for the most part are a joke. I would think attacking Putins being able to fund his war with oil sales should be a prime target. we can also move offensive weapons into the closest Nato countries which Putin absolutely does not want. And if all else fails threaten to make the Ukraine a country of Nato and put Nato right on his doorstep. The last thing in my humble opinion that we should do is keep throwing more money into that meat grinder. the one solution i think that had to be tried that no one wanted to try was to actually try to settle this diplomatically . At least that effort is now being made and we can either be successful or mark it off the list. [/QUOTE]

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