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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 6111041" data-attributes="member: 58700"><p>While we're on the subject we actually came close to going to war with the Soviet Union during the Iran hostage crisis. I was at Bragg as part of the newly formed rapid deployment force and we were getting daily battle plan briefings on the below. the plan was that if the Soviets went into Iran we would drop the 82nd into a mountain range in Iran and fight a delaying action to slow them down until our Navy could neutralize the russian navy and start moving heavy armor into the southern parts of Iran. Funny how we're still talking about the same two countries 50 years later. </p><p></p><p>From Grok :</p><p></p><p>During the Iranian Hostage Crisis (1979–1981), U.S. concerns about Soviet intervention were rooted in the geopolitical context of the Cold War and the strategic importance of Iran. The U.S. feared that the instability caused by the Iranian Revolution and the hostage situation could provide the Soviet Union, Iran's northern neighbor, an opportunity to expand its influence in the region, particularly given Iran's oil resources and its position along the Persian Gulf.</p><p>Key details:</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Geopolitical Context</strong>: The Soviet Union had long sought to increase its influence in the Middle East, and Iran’s revolution created a power vacuum. The U.S. worried that the Soviets might exploit Iran’s weakened state, especially after the fall of the pro-Western Shah and the rise of a revolutionary government hostile to the U.S.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Soviet Proximity and Interests</strong>: The Soviet Union shared a border with Iran, and its leadership had historical interests in controlling or influencing Iran to secure access to warm-water ports and oil fields. The 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan heightened U.S. fears, as it signaled Soviet willingness to intervene in the region.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>U.S. Intelligence Assessments</strong>: Declassified documents, such as CIA reports from the period, indicate that U.S. intelligence agencies considered the possibility of Soviet military or political moves into Iran. Analysts assessed that the Soviets might support leftist groups like the Tudeh Party (Iran’s communist party) or exploit ethnic unrest in northern Iran to destabilize the country further.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Carter Administration’s Response</strong>: The U.S. took steps to deter Soviet intervention, including reinforcing its military presence in the Persian Gulf through the Rapid Deployment Force (a precursor to CENTCOM). The Carter Doctrine, articulated in January 1980, explicitly warned that any attempt by an outside power (implied to be the Soviet Union) to control the Persian Gulf would be considered a threat to U.S. vital interests and met with force if necessary.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Soviet Actions</strong>: While the Soviets did not invade Iran, they provided limited support to leftist factions and maintained diplomatic engagement with the new Iranian government. However, the Islamic Republic’s leadership, under Khomeini, was deeply anti-communist and resisted Soviet influence, which limited Moscow’s ability to capitalize on the crisis.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><strong>Outcome</strong>: No direct Soviet invasion occurred, partly due to Iran’s internal consolidation under Khomeini, U.S. deterrence measures, and the Soviet Union’s own preoccupation with Afghanistan. However, the fear of Soviet opportunism shaped U.S. policy, contributing to heightened tensions and the militarization of the region.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="newfie, post: 6111041, member: 58700"] While we're on the subject we actually came close to going to war with the Soviet Union during the Iran hostage crisis. I was at Bragg as part of the newly formed rapid deployment force and we were getting daily battle plan briefings on the below. the plan was that if the Soviets went into Iran we would drop the 82nd into a mountain range in Iran and fight a delaying action to slow them down until our Navy could neutralize the russian navy and start moving heavy armor into the southern parts of Iran. Funny how we're still talking about the same two countries 50 years later. From Grok : During the Iranian Hostage Crisis (1979–1981), U.S. concerns about Soviet intervention were rooted in the geopolitical context of the Cold War and the strategic importance of Iran. The U.S. feared that the instability caused by the Iranian Revolution and the hostage situation could provide the Soviet Union, Iran's northern neighbor, an opportunity to expand its influence in the region, particularly given Iran's oil resources and its position along the Persian Gulf. Key details: [LIST=1] [*][B]Geopolitical Context[/B]: The Soviet Union had long sought to increase its influence in the Middle East, and Iran’s revolution created a power vacuum. The U.S. worried that the Soviets might exploit Iran’s weakened state, especially after the fall of the pro-Western Shah and the rise of a revolutionary government hostile to the U.S. [*][B]Soviet Proximity and Interests[/B]: The Soviet Union shared a border with Iran, and its leadership had historical interests in controlling or influencing Iran to secure access to warm-water ports and oil fields. The 1979 Soviet invasion of Afghanistan heightened U.S. fears, as it signaled Soviet willingness to intervene in the region. [*][B]U.S. Intelligence Assessments[/B]: Declassified documents, such as CIA reports from the period, indicate that U.S. intelligence agencies considered the possibility of Soviet military or political moves into Iran. Analysts assessed that the Soviets might support leftist groups like the Tudeh Party (Iran’s communist party) or exploit ethnic unrest in northern Iran to destabilize the country further. [*][B]Carter Administration’s Response[/B]: The U.S. took steps to deter Soviet intervention, including reinforcing its military presence in the Persian Gulf through the Rapid Deployment Force (a precursor to CENTCOM). The Carter Doctrine, articulated in January 1980, explicitly warned that any attempt by an outside power (implied to be the Soviet Union) to control the Persian Gulf would be considered a threat to U.S. vital interests and met with force if necessary. [*][B]Soviet Actions[/B]: While the Soviets did not invade Iran, they provided limited support to leftist factions and maintained diplomatic engagement with the new Iranian government. However, the Islamic Republic’s leadership, under Khomeini, was deeply anti-communist and resisted Soviet influence, which limited Moscow’s ability to capitalize on the crisis. [*][B]Outcome[/B]: No direct Soviet invasion occurred, partly due to Iran’s internal consolidation under Khomeini, U.S. deterrence measures, and the Soviet Union’s own preoccupation with Afghanistan. However, the fear of Soviet opportunism shaped U.S. policy, contributing to heightened tensions and the militarization of the region. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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