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<blockquote data-quote="a911scanner" data-source="post: 3711541" data-attributes="member: 58498">And your opinion matters, even to me as an &quot;internet stranger&quot;. I do think this issue is a bigger problem than you see it to be. Some factual, some hypothetical.Factual - if the language is not changed, it is locked in, therefore never to be negotiated on because this issue is &quot;locked in place&quot; for 10 years on a five year contract negotiating period.Hypothetical - It just so happens that this language change allows UPS to negotiate our pensions the same year that they are eliminating the management pensions. If this doesn&#039;t seem like something that is questionable to an reasonable thinking person, then maybe they need a bigger tinfoil hat.Maybe it&#039;s not a big deal and can be negotiated on in the future for a positive outcome for us. But from my view in the cheap seats, when we give an inch, they take 27 miles. ---&gt; 9.5 &amp; 70 hours work weeks anyone?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="a911scanner, post: 3711541, member: 58498"] And your opinion matters, even to me as an "internet stranger". I do think this issue is a bigger problem than you see it to be. Some factual, some hypothetical. Factual - if the language is not changed, it is locked in, therefore never to be negotiated on because this issue is "locked in place" for 10 years on a five year contract negotiating period. Hypothetical - It just so happens that this language change allows UPS to negotiate our pensions the same year that they are eliminating the management pensions. If this doesn't seem like something that is questionable to an reasonable thinking person, then maybe they need a bigger tinfoil hat. Maybe it's not a big deal and can be negotiated on in the future for a positive outcome for us. But from my view in the cheap seats, when we give an inch, they take 27 miles. ---> 9.5 & 70 hours work weeks anyone? [/QUOTE]

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