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<blockquote data-quote="OrionsBitch" data-source="post: 3584195" data-attributes="member: 65132">Lol and you don&#039;t understand that socialism and communism never work because humans don&#039;t act in binary terms. People are greedy, liars, selfish, etc. No socialist country has ever worked. That&#039;s why the Nordic countries that your type likes to point to has just started to abolish their welfare state, healthcare, unemployment and all other socialist related policies. Why are they doing this? Because they realized if you don&#039;t give people incentive to work they won&#039;t. People are inherently lazy.You can also tote your bull<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> Marxism and claim he wanted workers to iwb the means of production and weapons etc. That&#039;s true during the process of becoming a complete communist society. But if you actually read his works you should know that at the end once a society reaches those &quot;goals&quot; those things are no longer owned by the people. Where do you think Marx would position himself in the social hierarchy? Do you think he&#039;s going to be shoveling cow <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> like all the other citizens? Lmao keep dreaming....free markets, personal responsibility, private label d, right to privacy, freedom of religion, sexual orientation, and basically freedom to do whatever you want as long as it doesn&#039;t infringe in others rights is the key to success.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OrionsBitch, post: 3584195, member: 65132"] Lol and you don't understand that socialism and communism never work because humans don't act in binary terms. People are greedy, liars, selfish, etc. No socialist country has ever worked. That's why the Nordic countries that your type likes to point to has just started to abolish their welfare state, healthcare, unemployment and all other socialist related policies. Why are they doing this? Because they realized if you don't give people incentive to work they won't. People are inherently lazy. You can also tote your bull:censored: Marxism and claim he wanted workers to iwb the means of production and weapons etc. That's true during the process of becoming a complete communist society. But if you actually read his works you should know that at the end once a society reaches those "goals" those things are no longer owned by the people. Where do you think Marx would position himself in the social hierarchy? Do you think he's going to be shoveling cow :censored: like all the other citizens? Lmao keep dreaming....free markets, personal responsibility, private label d, right to privacy, freedom of religion, sexual orientation, and basically freedom to do whatever you want as long as it doesn't infringe in others rights is the key to success. [/QUOTE]

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