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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 1083307" data-attributes="member: 29553">First off, this board HAS NEVER LIED to the membership!! NEVER!! They had to make difficult decisions in order to make our health fund fiscally healthy again.&nbsp; Something your boys FAILED to address or even TELL US ABOUT!!&nbsp; The did &quot;promise&quot; to take on UPS and they have but never said ups would pay the cost.&nbsp; That is because ups is not obligated to make up for any short falls.&nbsp; Wish it were that easy.&nbsp; But the problems of our funds were complicated and needed to be agreed to by both sides.&nbsp; The actuaries stated that the funds would be in the red by june of 2011 IF NOTHING IS DONE.&nbsp; But tim and the nother union trustees decided TO DO SOMETHING.&nbsp; Unlike howie and buhlert and donato who lied to us that all was well meanwhile OUR FUNDS WERE IN ARBITRATION.&nbsp; So the old board put such an important decision in the hands of one person who could have ruled that THE RETIREES COST THE FUNDS SO MUCH THAT WE CANT AFFORD TO COVER THEM ANYMORE!!&nbsp; That was a distinct possibility.&nbsp; Tim and our board immediately took our funds out of arbitration !!&nbsp; Did co pays go up and other fees as well as retirees monthly bills?? Yes, but there was no alternative.&nbsp; Maybe you live in a bubble and dont understand how health care in this country costs a helluva lot of money.&nbsp; Blame the real culprits here.&nbsp; Redmond/Buhlert/Donato who DID NOT negotiate enough money to cover the length of the contract.&nbsp; &nbsp; Blame the greedy pharmaceutical industry or the greedy insurance companies or the greedy hospital groups!!&nbsp; Again i understand that retirees monthly fee of $200 for their family was way too low for years.&nbsp; Your boys SHOULD&nbsp; have incrementally raised them over the years.&nbsp; Remember they get about $1200/month in benefits yet now pay about $500/month.&nbsp; That is still a pretty good bargain.&nbsp; You ask retirees in other locals or even other jobs and they pay way more every month.&nbsp; On the pension side, yes it cuts into one&#039;s monthly paycheck.&nbsp; But that&#039;s another reason the old board failed.&nbsp; They failed to raise our pension in those years so the natural increase in health costs OF COURSE LESSENS OUR PENSION CHECKS.&nbsp; That is the obvious!!As for this board trashing the old board, well guess what : redmond and co were in power for a very long time and had nothing positive to show for it (with the exception of their bank accounts). They didnt get bashed.&nbsp; They got challenged.&nbsp; And when all you can run on is your &quot;experience&quot; and &quot;leadership&quot;, you get beat.&nbsp; Again, they didnt get trashed on forums like this anonymous forum.&nbsp; They went to union meetings and challenged them face to face.&nbsp; They mobilized the membership to defeat the contract that the redmond slate&nbsp; negotiated and endorsed.&nbsp; They had petition drives to change our by laws, etc.&nbsp; That is not trashing the board.&nbsp; That is challenging the old board.&nbsp; Its amazing how you continue to defend the redmond years as though it was something to brag about.&nbsp; You are very alone.&nbsp; No one wants that crew back in charge EVER AGAIN. You are no &quot;agitator&quot;.&nbsp; You are a defender of the old guard, nothing more!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="804brown, post: 1083307, member: 29553"] First off, this board HAS NEVER LIED to the membership!! NEVER!! They had to make difficult decisions in order to make our health fund fiscally healthy again. Something your boys FAILED to address or even TELL US ABOUT!! The did "promise" to take on UPS and they have but never said ups would pay the cost. That is because ups is not obligated to make up for any short falls. Wish it were that easy. But the problems of our funds were complicated and needed to be agreed to by both sides. The actuaries stated that the funds would be in the red by june of 2011 IF NOTHING IS DONE. But tim and the nother union trustees decided TO DO SOMETHING. Unlike howie and buhlert and donato who lied to us that all was well meanwhile OUR FUNDS WERE IN ARBITRATION. So the old board put such an important decision in the hands of one person who could have ruled that THE RETIREES COST THE FUNDS SO MUCH THAT WE CANT AFFORD TO COVER THEM ANYMORE!! That was a distinct possibility. Tim and our board immediately took our funds out of arbitration !! Did co pays go up and other fees as well as retirees monthly bills?? Yes, but there was no alternative. Maybe you live in a bubble and dont understand how health care in this country costs a helluva lot of money. Blame the real culprits here. Redmond/Buhlert/Donato who DID NOT negotiate enough money to cover the length of the contract. Blame the greedy pharmaceutical industry or the greedy insurance companies or the greedy hospital groups!! Again i understand that retirees monthly fee of $200 for their family was way too low for years. Your boys SHOULD have incrementally raised them over the years. Remember they get about $1200/month in benefits yet now pay about $500/month. That is still a pretty good bargain. You ask retirees in other locals or even other jobs and they pay way more every month. On the pension side, yes it cuts into one's monthly paycheck. But that's another reason the old board failed. They failed to raise our pension in those years so the natural increase in health costs OF COURSE LESSENS OUR PENSION CHECKS. That is the obvious!! As for this board trashing the old board, well guess what : redmond and co were in power for a very long time and had nothing positive to show for it (with the exception of their bank accounts). They didnt get bashed. They got challenged. And when all you can run on is your "experience" and "leadership", you get beat. Again, they didnt get trashed on forums like this anonymous forum. They went to union meetings and challenged them face to face. They mobilized the membership to defeat the contract that the redmond slate negotiated and endorsed. They had petition drives to change our by laws, etc. That is not trashing the board. That is challenging the old board. Its amazing how you continue to defend the redmond years as though it was something to brag about. You are very alone. No one wants that crew back in charge EVER AGAIN. You are no "agitator". You are a defender of the old guard, nothing more!! [/QUOTE]

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