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<blockquote data-quote="804brown" data-source="post: 1138317" data-attributes="member: 29553">I disagree.. They endorse it IF all the things they had agreed on are actually in the final edition.&nbsp; Two sides could agree to something then move on to the next issue.&nbsp; A few days later you compare notes and all of a sudden one side&#039;s notes are not the same as the other side&#039;s.&nbsp; I heard something like that happened on the pension numbers.&nbsp; Im still wondering about that now.&nbsp; Im sure if it is not as OUR SIDE had thought, Tim would no longer support that agreement.&nbsp; Yes the pension is key here but some of the language they got for us is good too:&nbsp; the new FT combo jobs, more vacation weeks, better grievance procedure, new kinds of FT jobs, a guarantee of 8 hrs if lay offs, early starts on Mondays, etc.This is nota supplement to vote down.&nbsp; This is not Howie&#039;s ALL CONCESSIONS SUPPLEMENT of 5 years ago.&nbsp; Granted bargaining is GIVE AS WELL AS TAKE.&nbsp; Last time we only GAVE to ups.&nbsp; Now we are getting some things.&nbsp; Some things needed to be fixed like the reduction of staff language...done.&nbsp; More vacation weeks in the summer...done.&nbsp; More opportunites for pters to go ft...done.&nbsp;&nbsp; The slow and unfair grievance procedure is now speedier and more fair to us!!&nbsp; And of course, OUR PENSION WILL FINALLY GO UP!!&nbsp; We have been waiting since 2002 for that to go up.&nbsp; Our board found a way to make it go up.&nbsp; They knew ups had the money and the market has been good lately.&nbsp; The perfect storm!!&nbsp; truthfully, I am very proud of the job they have done for us.&nbsp; They promised big things and they have delivered.&nbsp; Did they get us get everything?? No, but at least we moved forward.&nbsp; Howie and co had us going backwards on some things and staying in place in others. When this supplement passes, our contract and our union and our standard of living will all be better off!!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="804brown, post: 1138317, member: 29553"] I disagree.. They endorse it IF all the things they had agreed on are actually in the final edition. Two sides could agree to something then move on to the next issue. A few days later you compare notes and all of a sudden one side's notes are not the same as the other side's. I heard something like that happened on the pension numbers. Im still wondering about that now. Im sure if it is not as OUR SIDE had thought, Tim would no longer support that agreement. Yes the pension is key here but some of the language they got for us is good too: the new FT combo jobs, more vacation weeks, better grievance procedure, new kinds of FT jobs, a guarantee of 8 hrs if lay offs, early starts on Mondays, etc. This is nota supplement to vote down. This is not Howie's ALL CONCESSIONS SUPPLEMENT of 5 years ago. Granted bargaining is GIVE AS WELL AS TAKE. Last time we only GAVE to ups. Now we are getting some things. Some things needed to be fixed like the reduction of staff language...done. More vacation weeks in the summer...done. More opportunites for pters to go ft...done. The slow and unfair grievance procedure is now speedier and more fair to us!! And of course, OUR PENSION WILL FINALLY GO UP!! We have been waiting since 2002 for that to go up. Our board found a way to make it go up. They knew ups had the money and the market has been good lately. The perfect storm!! truthfully, I am very proud of the job they have done for us. They promised big things and they have delivered. Did they get us get everything?? No, but at least we moved forward. Howie and co had us going backwards on some things and staying in place in others. When this supplement passes, our contract and our union and our standard of living will all be better off!! [/QUOTE]

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