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<blockquote data-quote="OffRoutesPay" data-source="post: 1160894" data-attributes="member: 47531">Yea but that money didn&#039;t last it went from 33 million down to 7 in ten years Howard and company destroyed our medical and put us all in harms way. Took there pants down with VCD are u crazy?&nbsp; THEY CAN ONLY COVER VACATIONS. How is that losing jobs it can&#039;t stop with your BS,&nbsp; it doesn&#039;t affect the drivers at all,&nbsp; someone needs to be on vacation for a VCD to work.&nbsp; You cry about peak going to Jan 15 for the last 5 years Christmas helpers have been used for 2 weeks after peak.&nbsp; And you don&#039;t even know what your talking about when it comes to the 15 cents, you guys were losing 1.75 Tim had to make sure that many stayed because the medical if do so well it was a no brainer to give up the 15 as long as we got the pension increase and stop the 10 % for the retiree plus the hall now would have had control of the retiree medical and could make improvements as long as the reserve stayed over 5 months plus if it did drop down then the 15 cents would come back,&nbsp; this was a great supplement for you guys hands down.&nbsp; Getting ups to agree to the pension increase is worth everything.&nbsp; Your pension won&#039;t go up until 2025.&nbsp; The fact is Tim is our president he felt this was a good supplement and the members should have backed him.&nbsp; But you guys are lost.&nbsp; You want to talk about the company saving money how about adding up what ups has saved from new hire not getting coffee or now 40 in 70 to make book that ten times worse then any thing in this supplement.&nbsp; This was a great supplement ,&nbsp; still waiting for any of you clown to point out a better one....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="OffRoutesPay, post: 1160894, member: 47531"] Yea but that money didn't last it went from 33 million down to 7 in ten years Howard and company destroyed our medical and put us all in harms way. Took there pants down with VCD are u crazy? THEY CAN ONLY COVER VACATIONS. How is that losing jobs it can't stop with your BS, it doesn't affect the drivers at all, someone needs to be on vacation for a VCD to work. You cry about peak going to Jan 15 for the last 5 years Christmas helpers have been used for 2 weeks after peak. And you don't even know what your talking about when it comes to the 15 cents, you guys were losing 1.75 Tim had to make sure that many stayed because the medical if do so well it was a no brainer to give up the 15 as long as we got the pension increase and stop the 10 % for the retiree plus the hall now would have had control of the retiree medical and could make improvements as long as the reserve stayed over 5 months plus if it did drop down then the 15 cents would come back, this was a great supplement for you guys hands down. Getting ups to agree to the pension increase is worth everything. Your pension won't go up until 2025. The fact is Tim is our president he felt this was a good supplement and the members should have backed him. But you guys are lost. You want to talk about the company saving money how about adding up what ups has saved from new hire not getting coffee or now 40 in 70 to make book that ten times worse then any thing in this supplement. This was a great supplement , still waiting for any of you clown to point out a better one.... [/QUOTE]

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