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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OffRoutesPay" data-source="post: 1164071" data-attributes="member: 47531">My Uncle worked with Local his whole life rebuilding them and helping them " sorry can't say his name"He always says a contract is a living breathing book that is always worked on a little at a time. When I talked to him about 804 supplement and what was in it, he said you guys are stealing from UPS, UPS really must want to get this done, take advantage of it. He also said in 5 years if something is not working well like lets say VCD it can be removed if its that important and the membership is behind it. So if VCD were hurting 804 and not making full time jobs then get it out. but to get 400 dollar pension, 200 friend/t jobs, guarantee everyone 8 hours and change the grievance way is great.</blockquote>